RHD CSL Stripes

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  1. Bloodnut

    Bloodnut New Member

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    Hi Guys,

    I have been reading and absorbing information from the forum for some time now and am posting for the first time.
    A big thank you to all the members who have been such a great help to me in the restoration of my Chamonix RHD CSL.
    I have a question regarding the correct coloured CSL stripes for my car.
    DId the RHD CSL's all have Black stripes, or did some RHD Chamonix cars have the tri-colour stripes?
    Thanks in anticipation and thanks again to all members, for all the wonderful information available on this forum.
    Couldn't do it without you.

    Tom.
     
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    You will find most CSLs have black side stripes, but Ive seen them in other colours on cars. Mine has dark green for example. I imagine when new you could choose what you wanted?
     
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    Hi Tom,
    Are you from Australia ?

    cheers
    Matthew
     
  4. Bloodnut

    Bloodnut New Member

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    G'day Mathew,

    I'm in Melbourne.
    Sunny one minute, raining the next.
    Who would have it any other way?

    Tom.
     
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  6. Bloodnut

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    Matthew,

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  7. Marco 54

    Marco 54 New Member Site Donor

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    Hi Tom

    I understand that RHD cars in white came with black stripes but the 'Martini' tri-colour stripes were available as an official BMW after market option.
    I think the tri-colour stripes look best on white cars. I am less sure about them on silver - even the batmobiles.

    Marco
     
  8. Yannick

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    Tom,

    What you call the tri-colour stripes are the BMW Motorsport GmbH stripes ( the three colours are orange, blue and purple... today the orange colour has been replaced by red on M cars... which is a pity ... but nothing we can change ). Those three colours as BMW Motorsport GmbH identity are the idea of Alice Bracq ( wife of Paul Bracq, a great car designer who worked for BMW as of 1969 ).

    Back to your question : NO.

    The tri-colour stripes were ONLY made for the 3.2 litre CSL ( the Batmobiles ) and were NOT available for the other cars ( only black, dark blue and green possible ).

    If you dig a bit deeper, and 100% stick to originality, the tri-colour stripes were only foreseen for Polaris Grey or Chamonix white Batmobiles.

    Obvioulsy, quite a lot of CSL owners did change - afterwards - the original stripes of their cars by tri-colour stripes ( and also put spoilers and the aerodynamic
    bits etc ... etc ...).

    It is up to you and clearly your decision but if you really want to stay bone stock and have the correct stripes on your car, you will not drive with the tri-colour
    stripes.

    Enjoy your car safely !
     
  9. Drew20

    Drew20 New Member

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    My car currently has black stripes, following a reasonably recent resto, but looking through the car's history it used to have the Motorsport stripes, right up until its restoration. Obviously that does not mean that it came from the dealer with the multi-coloured stripes, but I think the photos date from the early 80s, so when the car was ~10 year old.

    I like the Motorsport stripes and if I was restoring it now, I would (probably) plump for those, that is on a Chamonix CSL. Agree that they might not work so well on an Inca or a Taiga car, for example!
     
  10. Mal CSL 3.0

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    You might find this useful. Read pg 2.

    If is from an official BMW UK CSL brochure that came with RHD CSLs. Therefore there were 3 single colour stripe options and the Motorsport stripes at no extra charge available on Chamonix and Polaris.

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  11. Yannick

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    This is very likely the only RHD CSL on the planet with the wheel on the left side ...
     
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    But it specifically states that the three color option is for Bats.
     
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    Although I think if you asked BMW UK at the time they may have been willing to do Motorsport stripes for a Polaris or Chamonix RHD CSL . They apparently had to work hard to sell these 500 RHD CSLs so were quite accommodating (who knows for sure, but I have seen a few UK CSLs with MS stripes)

    I have an origional UK sales brochure and all photos are LHD European cars, as they didn't create a UK specific version. They just translated the German one.

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    Thanks for the thread guys, I'm reading with interest as I'm just coming to the end of a RHD Polaris CSL "major" rebuild. It had black stripes when I bought it but I'm drawn to the tri colours! Does anyone know where to buy a good set? Reading Yannicks note I like the sound of the original colours of orange, blue and purple rather than the modern colours.

    All help gratefully received.
     
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    Marco 54 New Member Site Donor

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    Good evening Coalboy

    Coupeguy (https:coupeguy.com) sells tri-colour stripes for $675 for 8 (including 2 on the front spoiler). The stripes appear to be the red/purple/blue ones, and not the orange version described by Yannick.

    I am not sure whether the orange stripes were an option on CSLs. Were they were used on earlier competition models? Perhaps Yannick can clarify.

    I have the same booklet as Mal (above) and the stripes in that booklet are distinctly red. The booklet is dated 2/74. The paragraph highlighted by Mal reads -‘A further external feature of the BMW 3.0 CSL is a narrow stripe at the level of the waistline, colour matched to the basic paintwork in black, dark blue or dark green. With the colours Polaris (silver metallic) or Chamonix (white) the BMW 3.0 CSL can be supplied as a special version at no extra cost with a three-coloured stripe.’

    I therefore agree with Mal’s interpretation that tri-colour stripes were an option on standard CSLs. I have never seen a Batmobile without tri-colour stripes and therefore there would be no point in making them an option.

    Those of us based in UK find imports from USA expensive, as we pay VAT of 20% on the combined value of the item AND the shipping cost. There is also an element of import duty and a handling fee of £10 or thereabouts levied by the carrier.

    If anyone can identify good quality tri-colour stripes for less within Europe I am also interested!!!

    Good luck, Coalboy.



    Marco54
     
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    just to tag onto the thread - I am assuming black strips would be correct for fijord blue CSL rather than the dark blue option?
     
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    Hi afishe

    TBH I don't know!!! However I can say that I have owned a fjord blue CSL since 1982. When I bought it the stripes were black and I think they were original. Many years ago I did see a silver CSL with blue stripes but my understanding was that blue stripes were primarily intended for the blue cars. The extract I quote above suggests that both blue and black might be considered 'original'.

    Others may have more precise recollections, or a deeper understanding and I would be interested to know.

    Best wishes.

    Marco54
     
  18. Mal CSL 3.0

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    Back to the original post from Bloodnut. In my opinion I think a Chamonix CSL looks unbeatable with the tri colored Motorsport stripes.
     
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    hello
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    Like the above Csl ???
     

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