1972 CS in VT

I would buy it if it had some moss on it! 30K to fix the body, 30K to fix the rest; nice restored car, asking price 68K
 
How would you go about repairing that floor? Are you able to buy floors from a company or do you have to transplant it from another car? My knowledge is (somewhat) in 1st gen Mustangs, where you can buy the whole car as reproduction parts. I'm trying to learn about these. Thanks!
 
Foldinglemon said:
How would you go about repairing that floor? Are you able to buy floors from a company or do you have to transplant it from another car? My knowledge is (somewhat) in 1st gen Mustangs, where you can buy the whole car as reproduction parts. I'm trying to learn about these. Thanks!
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Can buy repair panels for floors, rockers and A pillars from Walloth Nesch, there's a link in the links section.
 
Folding, there are better cars out there for that price, I know of one or two but you can get new floors and just about any other piece- the problem is they're expensive and you may have to wait a while but there's lots to be done while you're waiting. I also did a few mustangs and good reproduction parts are much easier to come by, like NPD and Tony Branda etc. With these cars knowledge of the cars and contacts on the forum are king!

Welcome aboard- I see this is your first post!

Peter
 
Seller obviously knows his stuff. He states....no structural problems. I don't even know why bmw bothered with floors at all!
If that is 8 large I better get eating my hat.
 
I was wondering what the issue was until the photos got to the floors.

Someone with a lot of free time and a soft spot for coupes can save it.
 
Okay, I will admit that I wouldn't pay $8K for that car. However, I've been hitting the E9Coupe archives relentlessly. Over the past five years this group as mocked sellers and continually recommended that cars go the crusher. There are multiple threads about unsalvageable CSL's. I wont' dig them up, but there was a white 'Alpina' one, as well as a silver one with a cracked frame. Perhaps some of you veterans recall these threads. Now some are selling an aluminum boot lid for upwards of $10K. Heck, just two weeks ago you guys were scoffing at the $1,500 2800 CS in Vancouver.

The internet persists. I can go back a few years and shake my head at some sad 2007 responses about cars not worth saving. The amount of reproduction parts will continue to grow with new technologies such as 3D printing (if you think it's joke let me point you to build threads where it's the only option). VIN numbers however, can not be reproduced. You need to slap those parts on a car, rusty or otherwise. Who will be poopooing this car in 20-30 years?

BTW - I will be getting my rear floor pan from here for my mossy car:
http://www.dagsites.com/e9_floor_pans/

I keep trying to refrain but you guys just keep repeating bad behavior.
 
Markos said:
Okay, I will admit that I wouldn't pay $8K for that car. However, I've been hitting the E9Coupe archives relentlessly. Over the past five years this group as mocked sellers and continually recommended that cars go the crusher. There are multiple threads about unsalvageable CSL's. I wont' dig them up, but there was a white 'Alpina' one, as well as a silver one with a cracked frame. Perhaps some of you veterans recall these threads. Now some are selling an aluminum boot lid for upwards of $10K. Heck, just two weeks ago you guys were scoffing at the $1,500 2800 CS in Vancouver.

The internet persists. I can go back a few years and shake my head at some sad 2007 responses about cars not worth saving. The amount of reproduction parts will continue to grow with new technologies such as 3D printing (if you think it's joke let me point you to build threads where it's the only option). VIN numbers however, can not be reproduced. You need to slap those parts on a car, rusty or otherwise. Who will be poopooing this car in 20-30 years?

BTW - I will be getting my rear floor pan from here for my mossy car:
http://www.dagsites.com/e9_floor_pans/

I keep trying to refrain but you guys just keep repeating bad behavior.
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I for one love your mossy car.

At the same time, the experience of some serves as a warning to others.

I was duly warned and bought the car anyway, it was much better than everyone warned. Took me a couple of years at looking and riding in coupes to realize how good a car I bought who became Athena. Took a lot of work and sorting and has been worth the expense.
 
adawil2002 said:
I for one love your mossy car.

At the same time, the experience of some serves as a warning to others.

I was duly warned and bought the car anyway, it was much better than everyone warned. Took me a couple of years at looking and riding in coupes to realize how good a car I bought who became Athena. Took a lot of work and sorting and has been worth the expense.
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I got lucky. The forum didn't beat up my car too bad, but it did give me a few things to watch out for.

There are cautionary tales, but this forum does have a habit of a "well if it won't go to a 100 point restoration, kill it" thought process.
 
"There are multiple threads about unsalvageable CSL's. I wont' dig them up, but there was a white 'Alpina' one, as well as a silver one with a cracked frame." - Markos

Amen to that....I've already made the parallels of these e9's..... whether CS's, CSi's, CSL, Alpina's etc. to being the next vintage Porsche 911's. Try and save as many whole cars as possible as nothing can't be added or fixed later other than the VIN. There is really still an unbelievable amount of parts still available and more and more quality aftermarket parts are coming to market every day as Markos says. It may be a ghost of it's old self, but still on the road driving after some elbow grease, time, and money spent, but the reward of saving a car like that is priceless!!!! Especially if most of it is still there.... motor, tranny, especially if it's all matching #'s still. One big thing the coupes have going for them vs. a Porsche is they were not bastardized like the Porsche's were since the body style changed so much over the years and after the coupe, nothing close to it afterwards. Too many people ruined the original Porsche's by adding later model stuff over the years. Sometimes not even recognizable as a Longhood. It's funny to see the Porsche guys taking newer cars now and making them look like long hoods, crazy stuff. It's happening in reverse now. Also, pay attention to the early model BMW's now, they will only gain in value later and rare color combos too. It's to bad BMW doesn't give out more information on stats like that. For instance I have no way of knowing how many Golf e3's were produced in each year, I know there weren't many, but I really have no idea? It would be nice to know, but BMW does not want to go through the trouble of finding that out ( or i should say giving that info out), maybe someday they will. Hell, all it would take is an intern to go through each year and start adding them up one by one. Then if you match up to the registry, one will have a good idea how many more are still out there. There is going to be a time where there is no such thing as an un-salvageable CSL, Alpina, or 2002 Turbo, 1800 or 2000 for that matter. Keep on saving the babies!!!!!!
 
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MyFemurHurts said:
There are cautionary tales, but this forum does have a habit of a "well if it won't go to a 100 point restoration, kill it" thought process.
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I respectfully disagree. The criticism towards some coupes is an attempt to warn prospective buyers of the dangers and pitfalls hiding in many of these temptingly priced coupes. One day this might be an $8K opportunity but it isn't right now unfortunately. Just my opinion and not stated to drag up an old discussion.
 
I came for advice before buying my coupe and just for that help I think this board can do no wrong. Presenting a car here is a bit like a bride making the entrance at her wedding. Have you heard the guests comments lately?
 
couldn't put it better. Great point about Porsche.

GolfBavaria said:
"There are multiple threads about unsalvageable CSL's. I wont' dig them up, but there was a white 'Alpina' one, as well as a silver one with a cracked frame." - Markos

Amen to that....I've already made the parallels of these e9's..... whether CS's, CSi's, CSL, Alpina's etc. to being the next vintage Porsche 911's. Try and save as many whole cars as possible as nothing can't be added or fixed later other than the VIN. There is really still an unbelievable amount of parts still available and more and more quality aftermarket parts are coming to market every day as Markos says. It may be a ghost of it's old self, but still on the road driving after some elbow grease, time, and money spent, but the reward of saving a car like that is priceless!!!! Especially if most of it is still there.... motor, tranny, especially if it's all matching #'s still. One big thing the coupes have going for them vs. a Porsche is they were not bastardized like the Porsche's were since the body style changed so much over the years and after the coupe, nothing close to it afterwards. Too many people ruined the original Porsche's by adding later model stuff over the years. Sometimes not even recognizable as a Longhood. It's funny to see the Porsche guys taking newer cars now and making them look like long hoods, crazy stuff. It's happening in reverse now. Also, pay attention to the early model BMW's now, they will only gain in value later and rare color combos too. It's to bad BMW doesn't give out more information on stats like that. For instance I have no way of knowing how many Golf e3's were produced in each year, I know there weren't many, but I really have no idea? It would be nice to know, but BMW does not want to go through the trouble of finding that out ( or i should say giving that info out), maybe someday they will. Hell, all it would take is an intern to go through each year and start adding them up one by one. Then if you match up to the registry, one will have a good idea how many more are still out there. There is going to be a time where there is no such thing as an un-salvageable CSL, Alpina, or 2002 Turbo, 1800 or 2000 for that matter. Keep on saving the babies!!!!!!
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HB Chris said:
I respectfully disagree. The criticism towards some coupes is an attempt to warn prospective buyers of the dangers and pitfalls hiding in many of these temptingly priced coupes. One day this might be an $8K opportunity but it isn't right now unfortunately. Just my opinion and not stated to drag up an old discussion.
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Oh I fully agree that starry eyed prospective buyers need a reality check sometimes. I'm actually getting coffee with new member gmt tomorrow to show him my Coupe, my cars faults, and what what to look out for when buying one. Protecting one another is a hallmark of a great community, and it's one of the reasons why I enjoy posting here.

That being said, my post was more in jest of Marko's first thread here. ;)
 
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