A/C question

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My a/c compressor has failed. It had already been converted to a Rotary compressor 15 years or so back. So I don't have any mounting or bracket issues.

I have been advised that I should also replace the condenser and dryer as well as the lines. I have found a local source for the line replacement. Is there anything else I must do? Also I would love some input on which condenser and dryer to use and where to source them.

Thanks,

-MF
 
Hi Michael, did the "repair shop" suggest the ancillary replacements? I don't think those parts go bad too much unless they leak, so if they are not leaking I would leave them alone. I think that stuff is expensive and the labor is probably 2X the parts. Others here would know better so I only add the above comment in my limited understanding of the systems.
 
Did the compressor self destruct/blow up? Or is it just the clutch? If the compressor failed internally, the shops I have dealt with make a big deal about "metal shards" getting dispersed throughout the system.May or may not be a concern. If just the clutch failed, metal shards wouldn't be the problem. Receiver/dryers are fairly inexpensive, no big deal to replace. If the condensor doesn't leak, why replace it?
 
Thanks

Thanks for the link - that is the information I was after. I'll probably use the 16x18" parallel flow version from nostalgicairparts.com unless I find something else.


Nostalga air also has a universal dryer I'll probably buy as well.
 
I have been advised that I should also replace the condenser and dryer as well as the lines.

Well, we seem to be talking you into following the shop's advice, so you might as well replace the flexible hoses too - they are inexpensive, and like all flex hoses, do age and crack with time.
 
Michael, the single longest chapter in my book is about air conditioning retrofit and rejuvenation.

Basically, any time you open up an a/c system, you need to replace the receiver-drier so the system has fresh desiccant to remove moisture.

Then, as Bill says, it's a question of exactly what went wrong with the compressor. If the compressor just blew a seal (no, that's just ice cream... sorry :^) or if the clutch let go, new compressor, new drier, evacuate and recharge, Bob's your uncle. But if the compressor seized, it may have thrown a whole variety of contaminants (metal shavings, pieces of teflon o-rings, etc) into the system, requiring that the system be flushed out. And by the "system," I mean everything -- the condenser, the hoses, and -- egads! -- the evaporator. As you probably know, it is a colossal freaking pain in the butt to pull the console and evap assembly out and expose the evaporator core, but if there is widespread contamination, that's what needs to be done. The expansion valve should be changed as well.

What I typically do in resurrecting a dead system is undo the compressor and drier hoses, look at them, and swab them with a Q-tip. You can also pull out the drier and tap the ports out onto a paper towel. It's also smart to pull the hoses from the condenser off the compressor and the drier, blow through these hoses (that is, blow through the condenser) with compressed air, and tape a white rag on the outlet and look at it. If a black ooze is present anywhere, you have major problems and would be well-advised to replace virtually every single hose and component, as you'll never flush it all out. If the contamination is a light powdery residue, or some isolated metal flakes, you can probably get away with flushing it with AC flush or mineral spirits followed by brake cleaner (what I use). If it looks clean, you're probably fine and probably don't need to flush.

Note that if you're changing refrigerants (R12 to R134a), you DO need to flush, as you need to get every trace of the old refrigerant oil out.

As Stevehose said, if the system is open anyway, now's a great time to upgrade to a parallel flow condenser. I bought one that I sized as the biggest one that'd possibly fit (I'll check what size it is when I get home), but my system keeps cooling, so I haven't taken it apart to upgrade it yet.

Good luck!

--Rob
 
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Thanks Rob

Thanks for your excellent input. My knowlege of A/C operation is extrememly limited so I really apreciate your advice. I'll do what you say - and see what happens.

Bought your book on Amazon planning to read it soon.

Thanks again.

-Michael
 
Michael, I actually do follow my own advice :^). If you're a BMW CCA member and read my "Hack Online" pieces in Roundel Weekly, you'll see next Tuesday that I just went through this on my E30, pulled the hoses off the compressor, found them coated with rust, blew out the condenser and saw powder in the rag, and therefore yanked the evaporator out so I could flush absolutely every component and line out.
 
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