A CSr on ebay

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A blue CSi has appeared on ebay. A sad story. Perhaps it is time for a new model designation. I suggest the CSr for coupes like this one. It seems it is much loved but children and money keep the current owner from restoring it. Sad.

Can someone get the vin somehow?

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Small world. I'm 40 miles away and scrapped 2266375 last year, also Baikal and Italian delivery (in better shape). Seller says rockers "appear" solid. When this technique is used to dance around the obvious, it drives me absolutely crazy. I want to run down there with my red handled screwdriver!!!
 
haha CSR... love it! Hard to believe this car was "restored" only a short 10 years ago. Sad... I've yet to see one with front shock towers that bad.
 
I like the way he justifies the car being worth something like $9300 because the rust really isn’t too bad (he would fix it if he didn’t have all those kids) and then adds a cute little story about the poor E9 bodies sitting outside at the factory causing the rust (it certainly wasn’t his fault). He has likely already talked to some body shops, gotten totally scared :shock: about the repair costs (rightfully so) and is looking to bail out. This is probably a car we will see offered 2 years from now with the engine compartment completely covered with black undercoating or it will be parted out. ~ John Buchtenkirch
 
That's an honest ad, IMO.

He mentions the rust and shows the shock towers. That's more than I can say for a lot of ads.
 
I really like that colour. Hope it gets fixed by a Brit. (It's not too bad, just some patchwork needed!)
 
Guys I'm detecting a little negativity in this thread - The car is certainly better than many coupe's I've seen restored as a base. The ad is honest about its faults, there are lots of decent pics and there's no reason to doubt you would be happy with what you got if you bid.
 
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At $4600 not a bad deal but if it gets to $10K it still needs a tremendous amount of rust repair, those front fenders are horrible. He may have shown pics there but it is certainly understated on the effort to fix.
 
pamp,
The reason the inner fenders look so bad was that it was probably driven on salted rooads at some point and that rust is from the inside out. When he says the rockers are OK he is probably referring to the rocker panel covers, underneath is probably a completely different story
 
Here’s my take on the car, he has admittedly done a fairly decent job photographing the rust damage. What bothers me is these statements; In the interest of accurately describing this car, I have had several BMW specialists look at this car. The general assessment is that it is a solid car which needs to have the rust repairs done now, to preserve the value. I just couldn’t use the term “solid car” in any description of that car. After doing all metal work on 2 ½ coupes I can almost bet you if the floors are gone so are the rocker panels and the bottom of the front door posts. The way the paint is rising up indicates to me that the car is already poorly patched & loaded with Bondo. I say that car needs 15 to 25K worth of metal work and another 5 to10K for paint work so if you pay $9300. for the car, where are you ? Have you preserved the value, no your in too deep or way over the finished car's value.

Admittedly shop space is costly on Long Island so to be fair I will throw in another scenario. Your brother-in-law owns a restoration shop or you have found some excellent guys that work real cheap in a barn out in the country. You manage to get the car done for half the price I mentioned. So then what do you actually have ? A redone Northeast rust bucket that’s going to have rust popping up in new places probably in less than 5 years. I have seen it happen so many times in my 40 plus years career, that is why I didn’t buy & patch a Northeast car and believe me over 30 years I have looked at a bunch of them. I’m sorry for my somewhat skeptical attitude but I have seen far too many people get in over their heads :-:)sad: on restoration jobs thru the years. ~ John Buchtenkirch
 
Sympathy with John

I must say I agree with John. When I bought my coupe twenty years ago it had virtually no surface rust or rust visible anywhere. It had spent almost it's entire life in salt free and mostly rain free northern Texas. But there was still a lot of metal work required when I got it down to bare metal. Prior repairs were just temporary delays for the rust not real repairs. I repaired every rust spot with new metal.

I just cannot fathom trying to restore a car that looks like this. It looks far worse than my car even when it was totally bare with every spot visible. This is not a financial perspective as I will not get the out of pocket parts cost invested in my car back in the foreseeable future (not to mention untold hours of personal labor). This is OK since I have enjoyed twenty years without any rust anywhere in over 80K California miles. But I just can't imagine the amount of work required to properly restore a car like this.

But you might buy it and drive it as is.
 
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Perspective

A guy on the main land here in B.C. finished a shell last year using two cars. Just the shell mind you, no fenders, etc. he admitted to paying for some 800 hrs of labor by someone else.
Hmmm....even with a low, buddy shop rate, not too hard to figure the math on this one.
Ouch! You better love it or leave it.
 
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