Going Rate on Original 14x6 BMW 20 Spoke Wheels

[Markos]

Hi Folks,

I have a line on some factory 14x6 Alpina Style 20 spoke wheels. These are the original smooth spoke ones, not the later turbines. What should a set in fair/good condition go for? Are these hard to come by? Wheels are pretty low on my priority list, so I'd prefer to get them later unless I found a good price and they are difficult to obtain.

Like This (photo credit Dequincy):

 

[Stan]

Those are not Alpia wheels they are the BMW wheels probably 1974.
See the difference?

 

[bert35csi]

Technically, these 14x6" rims are pretty rare as they were fitted to 74> later 3.0 coupes, and sedans. As to their desirability and value, not much to both, probably $400 for the set.

 

[Tundra]

My observation abilities have clearly diminished over the years. I have struggled for quite some time to see the difference between Alpina wheels and BMW wheels ( the turbine style are clearly different). Other than than the central cap what is the difference?

I see a slight difference in the white car shown in that the wheel 'appear" to have a deeper dish. But, that could be a result of the angle of the picture.

It's somewhat similar to the old sunday papers where two exact pictures are shown and you are asked to find the 10 differences between the two. Or, a Louis Vuitton handbag costing hundreds of $ versus a Chinese reproduction bought on Canal st in Nyc for 30 bucks. Could we tell the difference? Or better yet, choosing between Kate Upton and Charlotte McKinney. Thankfully I will never face the dilemma in the last example.

Could someone post a picture of a "Alpina" wheel next to a BMW OEM wheel and point out the differences?

 

[adawil2002]

BMW Wheel: Spokes go straight to the rim

Alpina Wheel : Spokes taper into the rim in a slight arc.

There are stamping differences too, too small to see in Stan's photo.

 

[Mike Goble]

They look just like the set I have. They were on my Bav when I bought it and now they take up space.

 

[Markos]

Thanks Stan. I searched around and understand the differences, hence the "alpina style". Your comments are valuable for the thread though, given that BMW clearly borrowed Alpina's styling.

I found a set for $200. That seems like a good deal.

Those are not Alpia wheels they are the BMW wheels probably 1974.
See the difference?

 

[bert35csi]

Could someone post a picture of a "Alpina" wheel next to a BMW OEM wheel and point out the differences?

As noted, the 7x14" Alpinas have much deeper lips than the 6x14" BMW 20 spokes. Believe the extra inch fully goes into the outer lips.

 

[dave v. in nc]

fauxpinas

...Mike, note the step, or ridge on the side of your spokes..those came a little later still...

 

[Ohmess]

BMW did a version of that same 20 spoke rim for the luxury version of the e39.

I happen to like the deeper dish look of the Alpinas better, but as noted there is quite a price differential.

 

[Markos]

BMW did a version of that same 20 spoke rim for the luxury version of the e39.

I happen to like the deeper dish look of the Alpinas better, but as noted there is quite a price differential.

I think you are referring to Style 32's. They are cool wheels, but don't have 20 spokes

 

[Simufly]

BMW Alpina style wheels

BMW also sold some Alpina style wheels in 14x7 size. The same (size) as the genuine Alpinas.

 

[Markos]

Since we are on the subject.

Another wheel that can give you a similar look is the BMW Style 4. It has around 32 spokes. It is a 16x8" forged wheel from an E38. The ET23 offset could be challenge however.

 

[rsporsche]

it is not the et23 that is going to bother you ... that is correct in relation to the et-11 on the 7" wheel. what is going to probably create the issue is the 8" wheel.

 

[verde2002]

$150-$200 based on the ads I have seen on Craigslist Los Angeles previously.

 

[Markos]

it is not the et23 that is going to bother you ... that is correct in relation to the et-11 on the 7" wheel. what is going to probably create the issue is the 8" wheel.

Thanks for the clarification. I am absolutely offset/sizing challenged. It's like voodoo to me.

 

[rsporsche]

the offset is from the center of the wheel (et-0) would put the mounting at the center of the wheel ... the bigger the number, the further the wheel mounting moves toward the center of the car (away from the center of the wheel) ... conversely, the smaller the number, the closer it moves to the center of the wheel.

for instance, a 7" et-36 wheel on the front of our coupes, the mount would be 36mm away from the center of the wheel. to use an et-36 wheel on a coupe, you would need to put a big (25mm) spacer in between the hub and the wheel ... which would move the wheel away from the center of the car. of course the bolts wouldn't fit.

that being said, in our coupes, with a 7" front wheel at et-11, if you wanted to go to an 8" wheel, and the desire was to keep the outer edge of the wheel in the same place, you would need to use an et-36 wheel (11mm + 25mm) ... of course that would mean that the wheel would rub on the strut. so what is typically done is to keep the center of the wheel in the same place. with an 8" wheel, you would have to add 12mm to the offset ... so et-23 would keep the wheel centers in the same place.

hopefully this makes sense.

 

[Stevehose]

+1 I can't get my head around it either.

Thanks for the clarification. I am absolutely offset/sizing challenged. It's like voodoo to me.

 

[Markos]

+1 I can't get my head around it either.

Sigh...I'll stick with the "do these wheels fit" approach . There will be no pioneering on my end.