how to and from where to lift our coupes

deQuincey

deQuincey

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it is not a secret that to open this thread i have been clearly inspired by our brave mud-racing friend @Belgiumbarry that after an indecent and provocative mud-wrestling-racing journey lifts his coupe in this spectacular way:

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easy and effective, but like others had wisely said many coupes if treated that way will end up with the jack stand protruding from the rear seat, which, to say the least, can not be consider very aesthetic

no offense intended, i am not a jag-taliben like @Markos showed us ("... go sell your **** somewhere else" ;-)), but i think it might be a good discussion topic

what do you think ?
 
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I always lift my coupe from the framerails or middle of the subframe in the front. In the rear I use the subframe mounting points (under the bushing) or the diff.
 
deQuincey , we should mention to members that i have here a complete roll cage welded in... which is probably stiffer that the car itself !
 
Gransin said:
I always lift my coupe from the framerails or middle of the subframe in the front. In the rear I use the subframe mounting points (under the bushing) or the diff.
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dear rob,
i would like to understand what you said here, because i think i use a very similar system,

front:
1-frame rails, i assume those are the long chassis members, where exactly do you place the lift ?

2-middle subframe, this works for me, i assume you mean the curved and corrugated plate of the front subframe that lays aprox in the vertical of the middle of the engine (only consideration to avoid this point if your plate is NOT corrugated, right ?)

rear:
1-subframe mounting points under bushing, well that is the point for Barri, i am not so sure about that point, but ok we can discuss this further

2-the diff, works for me too, i place a thick wood piece with a hole that avoids pressure on the diff emptying plug and it works well, only point is that you need a long arm lift to reach it safely
 
I usually jack the car up from the frame rail right about the middle of transmission, it has worked well so far!
 
deQuincey said:
dear rob,
i would like to understand what you said here, because i think i use a very similar system,

front:
1-frame rails, i assume those are the long chassis members, where exactly do you place the lift ?
2-middle subframe, this works for me, i assume you mean the curved and corrugated plate of the front subframe that lays aprox in the vertical of the middle of the engine (only consideration to avoid this point if your plate is NOT corrugated, right ?)

rear:
1-subframe mounting points under bushing, well that is the point for Barri, i am not so sure about that point, but ok we can discuss this further
2-the diff, works for me too, i place a thick wood piece with a hole that avoids pressure on the diff emptying plug and it works well, only point is that you need a long arm lift to reach it safely
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DeQ,

I'm home from work now so I can write a little longer answer. Usually when I lift the car, no matter if I just need to get to one side or corner, I lift the whole car in the front or in the rear, never in a corner.
My procedure is I take my big hydraulic car jack, made for low cars so I can get it under the car, and put it either under the front subframe (on the curved plate) or rear diff and lift it up. My car jack has a nice rubber on the point that lifts the car, so I don't put anything between the jack and the car.
When the whole front end or rear end is in the air, I put jackstands either under the long chassis members/rails in the front (as far forward as possible, just before where the rails starts to turn upwards), or under the rear subframe mounts at the rear. With jackstands in place, I put some thick rubber pads between the jackstands and the car, and lower the car down on the jackstands, but I still keep some pressure on the hydraulic car jack.
This is the jack I currently use, very pleased with it.
https://www.bahco.com/en/p/extra-lo...aa-ed-fc-48-72-e9-df-03-85-54-73-5f-0c-92-a6/

Even though my rockers are brand new and structurally sound, I would not use them as a lifting point - no.
 
Robert, just be sure your "long chassis members/rails" are in solid condition.... on the rallycar we ever welded a new plate in there... from outside it looks OK , but on the inside it was almost rusted trough over a serious lenght !
 
Belgiumbarry said:
Robert, just be sure your "long chassis members/rails" are in solid condition.... on the rallycar we ever welded a new plate in there... from outside it looks OK , but on the inside it was almost rusted trough over a serious lenght !
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Barry, yes I’m one of the (few?) that knows the actual status of the rails in their coupe, I had them partly open and inspected while we replaced the floor in my car. They’re solid:)
But it’s a good warning!
 
Belgiumbarry said:
Robert, just be sure your "long chassis members/rails" are in solid condition.... on the rallycar we ever welded a new plate in there... from outside it looks OK , but on the inside it was almost rusted trough over a serious lenght !
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yes that is very common and you never know how long and how deep it is


Gransin said:
DeQ,

I'm home from work now so I can write a little longer answer. Usually when I lift the car, no matter if I just need to get to one side or corner, I lift the whole car in the front or in the rear, never in a corner.
My procedure is I take my big hydraulic car jack, made for low cars so I can get it under the car, and put it either under the front subframe (on the curved plate) or rear diff and lift it up. My car jack has a nice rubber on the point that lifts the car, so I don't put anything between the jack and the car.
When the whole front end or rear end is in the air, I put jackstands either under the long chassis members/rails in the front (as far forward as possible, just before where the rails starts to turn upwards), or under the rear subframe mounts at the rear. With jackstands in place, I put some thick rubber pads between the jackstands and the car, and lower the car down on the jackstands, but I still keep some pressure on the hydraulic car jack.
This is the jack I currently use, very pleased with it.
https://www.bahco.com/en/p/extra-lo...aa-ed-fc-48-72-e9-df-03-85-54-73-5f-0c-92-a6/

Even though my rockers are brand new and structurally sound, I would not use them as a lifting point - no.
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i do exactly the same as you,

my jack is a HAZET very light and sturdy aluminium jack

but on the rear i place the jackstands on the wheel subrame, clase to the wheel hub (if i do not need to play with the springs and so on that is my choice, it also keeps the springs compressed and the cv joints with a good angle and without any stress

on the front i am more and more in favour of avoiding the long rails (yes as front as possible before the turn up), i do not trut them as i can not inspect them

i am considering the opportunity to find another place,...ideas ?
 
Gransin said:
DeQ,

I'm home from work now so I can write a little longer answer. Usually when I lift the car, no matter if I just need to get to one side or corner, I lift the whole car in the front or in the rear, never in a corner.
My procedure is I take my big hydraulic car jack, made for low cars so I can get it under the car, and put it either under the front subframe (on the curved plate) or rear diff and lift it up. My car jack has a nice rubber on the point that lifts the car, so I don't put anything between the jack and the car.
When the whole front end or rear end is in the air, I put jackstands either under the long chassis members/rails in the front (as far forward as possible, just before where the rails starts to turn upwards), or under the rear subframe mounts at the rear. With jackstands in place, I put some thick rubber pads between the jackstands and the car, and lower the car down on the jackstands, but I still keep some pressure on the hydraulic car jack.
This is the jack I currently use, very pleased with it.
https://www.bahco.com/en/p/extra-lo...aa-ed-fc-48-72-e9-df-03-85-54-73-5f-0c-92-a6/

Even though my rockers are brand new and structurally sound, I would not use them as a lifting point - no.
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This is exactly the same procedure I use.
 
Always lift mine from the rear diff or off the front subframe.

My car was left jacked up in one corner with the o/s/f in the air from 1988 until 2016.

Needless to say when I lowered it off the axle stands I simply turned round and asked my friend to do it because I was too scared of seeing what would happen.
 
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