I just love eBay

yep,

there's also plenty of rust in the nose (can be seen poking through paint under beltline trim) and about 1/2" of bondo under the front valance!

Seller will find some ambitious buyer who will bleed his bank account dry trying to make this car a driver.

Good donor car!
 
looks to be a Euro with metric speedo, bumpers and console tray.

whats' up w/ the C-pillar under the roundel? improv trim local?

-shanon
 
It also has the coveted steering wheel in the trunk option... :lol:
 
I'm a little surprised with everyone's comments. This is Ebay, so it will sell for "what someone is willing to pay for it" kinda deal. But, that said, based on the photos of the car I'd say it was quite a few marks above a "donor car" or being held together with bondo. Has anyone seen it in person?

Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
 
Hey, it runs. That bondoed front valence is scary. Makes me wonder about bondo in the rockers.

That "improv'ed" trim circles the greenhouse under the winshield and rear window.

It's a driver (with some work). A big step up from a donor

There's an ass for every seat.
 
dang said:
Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
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I have no idea why someone would put a reserve on a car like this. Did you see the bondo on the front undercarriage? Between the rust and the bondo my guess is that there was some front end damage at some time in her life. That's a thousand dollar (or less) car if I have ever seen one. Drive it for a year and then cut it up or make it a racer.
 
I agree, definitely worth going and poking a stick at it. it does run...
an air dam will hide the front mess
could be a good track candidate...certainly seen worse

part it or flog it for a while :lol:
-shanon
 
shanon said:
looks to be a Euro with metric speedo, bumpers and console tray.

whats' up w/ the C-pillar under the roundel? improv trim local?

-shanon
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I bet this car had a vinyl top at one point which explains the base of the c-pillar.
 
chicane said:
dang said:
Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
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I have no idea why someone would put a reserve on a car like this. Did you see the bondo on the front undercarriage? Between the rust and the bondo my guess is that there was some front end damage at some time in her life. That's a thousand dollar (or less) car if I have ever seen one. Drive it for a year and then cut it up or make it a racer.
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A running CS with small bumpers is a thousand dollar car? How'd you come up with that?
 
JMinNJ said:
Hey, it runs. That bondoed front valence is scary. Makes me wonder about bondo in the rockers.

That "improv'ed" trim circles the greenhouse under the winshield and rear window.

It's a driver (with some work). A big step up from a donor

There's an ass for every seat.
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Okay, maybe I was a bit harsh with "donor car". There is indeed, an ass for every seat. If it runs and drives, it could prove to be an affordable way to enter into coupe ownership.

True, if the seller has set a realistic reserve (X2 chic, this car is not really worthy of any reserve), the car should sell at "market price". Forget about debating values, the main reason I had some negative comments was that it is a personal peeve of mine when sellers feel as though they own the only coupe on the planet and describe it as a barn-find Lusso!

As an aside, I have sold many many personal cars and have made it a point to always understate their attributes and clearly state the issues, working under the presumption that most buyers are car enthusiasts (at a minimum) and will find problems anyway. WHen I sold my '88 325IX with 190k+ miles, it was a great driver, but I sold it on Craigs List described as a "parts car", set a reasonable price and had three people essentially bidding that price up within days (I still miss that car).
When a seller states "rust free" and the car is clearly a bondo-bucket, this insults our intelligence and draws lots of negative blowback. I (like many others on this board) get a little worked up when confronted with the "used car salesmanship" and puffery used to describe cars. When cars are advertised on the internet, the seller should do their best to accurately document and describe the condition. Especially on eBay when the short fuse on these auctions sometimes does not allow for personal inspection. Yes, I know, always inspect personally, but if you're buying a $5-$6k coupe and the car is 3,000 miles away, its not economically feasible and you're buying on speculation. I think the term "eBay" is actually slang Latin for Caveat Emptor!, and there is no universal law dictating how sellers see or describe their sh**, ahem, sorry, "wares".


BTW, did anyone else see how the photo of the rear trunk area is either cropped or taken strategically to barely show the chunks missing from the spare rim?
 
I don't think that car looks that bad at all. Floors look solid, the inner fenders look good. The rockers look solid assuming that's just a little surface rust on the bottom edge. The doors and valance have some rust, but the body looks relatively straight otherwise. Assuming its not slathered in bondo and the rust is manageable, I'd pay $3-4k for that car as a project.

I'm still trying to figure out how - or if - its really a '75. The rims, bumpers and seats seem to indicate 73 or earlier. I suppose it could be a carb'd euro version with swapped rims?
 
CookeD said:
chicane said:
dang said:
Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
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I have no idea why someone would put a reserve on a car like this. Did you see the bondo on the front undercarriage? Between the rust and the bondo my guess is that there was some front end damage at some time in her life. That's a thousand dollar (or less) car if I have ever seen one. Drive it for a year and then cut it up or make it a racer.
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A running CS with small bumpers is a thousand dollar car? How'd you come up with that?
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REad acat2002's post above. Bondo-bucket.
 
chicane said:
CookeD said:
chicane said:
dang said:
Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
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I have no idea why someone would put a reserve on a car like this. Did you see the bondo on the front undercarriage? Between the rust and the bondo my guess is that there was some front end damage at some time in her life. That's a thousand dollar (or less) car if I have ever seen one. Drive it for a year and then cut it up or make it a racer.
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A running CS with small bumpers is a thousand dollar car? How'd you come up with that?
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REad acat2002's post above. Bondo-bucket.
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Now there's an enlightened answer...

BTW-- I thought you promoted the saving the "bondo buckets", Chicane. What gives with your new stance?
 
Okay, now let's not try to bait Chic!. He's been on relatively good behavior lately and hasn't directly lashed out at anyone in particular. :wink:

Regarding the car in question....yeah, the floors look surprisingly solid based on the pictures. I probably have the least amount of body-repair experience on this board, but isn't it easier to replace floor pans compared to the Pandora's-box of rot that is clearly hiding in the really important areas? I'd rather see some holes in the floor and have confidence in the A-pillar and nose/shock towers if the car is to be a driver.
I guess the entire deal smacks of wheeler-dealer salesmanship with far more downside than upside. Description, presentation and other observations jump out as red flags. (nice rubber shift boot from a '82 Ford Fiesta for example) WHat other kind of bubble-gum & paperclip repairs were performed by McGyver?
Of course at the right number the car may suit somebody's needs just perfectly. I guess we'll see....if it sells.
 
CookeD said:
chicane said:
CookeD said:
chicane said:
dang said:
Chic, where is your usually defense of saving these old coupes? ;)

Dan
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I have no idea why someone would put a reserve on a car like this. Did you see the bondo on the front undercarriage? Between the rust and the bondo my guess is that there was some front end damage at some time in her life. That's a thousand dollar (or less) car if I have ever seen one. Drive it for a year and then cut it up or make it a racer.
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A running CS with small bumpers is a thousand dollar car? How'd you come up with that?
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I think it would be worth buying just not at a reserve auction. It is not that good of a car. And I am all in favor of rescuing old sad sack coupes but this one looks like it had front end damage. It looks like a racer candidate to me.
REad acat2002's post above. Bondo-bucket.
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Now there's an enlightened answer...

BTW-- I thought you promoted the saving the "bondo buckets", Chicane. What gives with your new stance?
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bondo bucket on ebay

I think one of the problems we have with out cars being sold by people who dont know that much about them is this:(1.) they find out it is a somewhat limited production rare car via the internet (2.) they see NADA classsic guide list a "low' value car at 16,900.(3.) they think they have struck the mother lode with a car they can resell for more $ as it is so cool regardless of actual condition !!!!!.

With this ebay car, it would take more that 16k to get in into a really nice driver state and maybe at that point it would be worth 16k. Someone who is really shady could put a crappy paint job on it to hide all the $#%^*!! and sheepskins and try to get even more money. On the flip side a potential buyer who has lost alot of $ in the crash and maybe his job , who wants to feel better about life could also put a crappy paint job and sheepskins on it and just drive it until it falls apart for not much $ .He would still be driving an e9 and get a thumbs up from me and many others all day.Even if my coupe"s rust is too costly to repair i will either sell it on ebay or keep driving it until it becomes a parts car for my next e9. People still go nuts over my rusty 2002 in NYC which has a very unique option: when you open the trunk you always hear neil young's "rust never sleeps" although there is no stereo... "hey hey my my ! just my one wooden penny for all of y"all
paz
sirshorty
73 csa
75 2002a
69 280sl
74 jensen interceptor(contemplating?)
 
Greetings from snowy Finland.

I’ve been a lurker for years but couldn’t help commenting on this one.

To me, as a veteran of three e9-restorations (all of which are still in my possession, I could not bear the idea of having to sell any of these wonderful motors) this example is really a diamond in the rough. All of mine were in far worse condition prior to restoration.

Sure, there is a fair amount of bondo in the front valance, but believe me, that’s just a minor detail when it comes to tinkering with an e9.

What’s remarkable is the lack of classic tell tale signs of terminal rust and most of all desperate attempts to hide it that are so common with these cars –latter of which one can often find in so called restored cars as well, I’m sad to say.

For anyone seriously contemplating restoring one of these magnificent machines themselves my advice is to go for it. Of course, one might be able to find a road worthy example cheaper than the cost of restoring this car, particularly in today’s economic climate, but if money is your top priority then restoring almost any car is probably not the smartest thing to do anyhow.

Cheers Andy
 
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