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Hello Everybody!

My Name is Fabio, and I'm from Basel, Switzerland.
I've registered here in this Forum to ask a few questions get some informations and perhaps - in the end - even start a rebuilding project :)

Sice I recently discovered an old BMW 3.0 (it's in a quite bad shape tho), I think about buying and rebuilding it.

I actually don't know exactly which model it is and if it's worth the work in the end. That's where you (the experts) pop in :)

I made some pics and here they are:
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Well, I guess that's been it for the moment, so ...

Greetings from Switzerland,
Fabio
 
Hello Fabio,
Welcome to the site.
It's not possible to tell which model the white car you have pictured is from your photographs, However I do note that there is a blue 3.0 sitting next to it. So you could buy 2!!!

Check out the Tech info section for Rust Prone Areas. Basically that's the problem with these cars.... rust, rust, and more rust. :evil:
On the plus side most of the important panels can sourced from BMW and or 3rd party suppliers.
The mechanical parts, engine, gearbox and running gear are "easy" to sort with many common parts with other BMW models and years.
Interior parts such as seats and trim are fairly rare but can either be repaired and or re-trimmed

To answer your final question is it worth it, well that depends....
Are you going to do the work yourself?
If it's a genuine CSL?
Are you only going to restore it to make money?
If you answers to the above are No, No, and Yes then no it's not worth it, but if you want to restore it and have one of the smartest cars BMW ever built to cruise around it then the answer is yes!

Malc
 
Hi Malc,

Thank you for the reply!
Yes, you are right, there actually is a blue 3.0 standing beside the white one.
How can I make out the difference or find out what model it is?

I already thought so about the rust as I saw it, but I mean, that's something that can be solved.
I'm a little bit more concerned about the engine and mechanical parts.

To answer your three questions:
1. I would try to do as much as possible by myself.
2. Gotta have to find this out ;)
3. Nope, it's about the spirit these cars spread 8)
 
To find out what model the blue and the white one is then there are some pretty easy steps..

1.. if it has two carbs, then it is a CS model
2.. if it has fuel injection then it's a Csi

Now a CSL can have carbs or injection, but should have an aluminium bonnet, doors and boot lid. Sometimes they are fitted with a "City pack" which means things like electric windows, comfy seats. Usually they have a black interior and a black interior roof lining. CSL's often had fixed rear windows and hand operated front windows. They were made of thinner metal and had very little sound proofing, or rust proofing. Often they did not have a front bumper and the rear one was made of plastic.
Be careful though as there are a few fake ones out there. Another glance at the white one would suggest either a CS or a Csi
However to be absolutely clear see if you can get the Chassis number (VIN) of the car. The engine number, if original, will match the chassis number. Let us know the number and we can check what model it is. BMW Mobile tradition can be contacted with the number and they can tell you when it was built, some details such as colour, model etc and where it was first delivered, and when.

Do not worry too much about Engines and mechanicals. They are easy to fix, and swaps with more modern BMW engines and gearboxes are common, look through the board. The rear diff will last forever if not a LSD, and even a LSD will last assuming the oil has been changed on a regular basis.
The brakes will need an overhaul if it has stood for any length of time, but parts are available and rebuilt calipers on an exchange basis can be sourced.

If you get stuck there are a few folk here who can help out, and no doubt are looking for an excuse for a holiday in Switzerland :wink:
Malc

PS: Is the blue one for sale too???
 
geez don't hold secrets

F, the CSL is very desireable and few remain. There is only one sure way to know: the VIN numbers of CSLs in various guises (with or without carbs, etc) are posted at www.bmwcsregistry.org, a site run by Art Wegweiser here in the USA. If you find a car with a CSL VIN, then it is or was a CSL. That's all there is to it.

Know that CSLs came with a wide variety of "standard" equipment and may/not have some or most of the goodies.

But the main chance is that neither car is a lightweight.

Know also that your comment to the effect that "rust can be fixed" has nearly or actually bankrupted quite a few naive would-be coupe owners. One guy on the list dropped 35,000 USD on a car in good condition... and that was before it was completed. Now the car was likely quite beautiful when done... but then he sold it to get another. But hey, 35,000? Think what that money could do or get you in other more modern and much more capable machinery...

On the other hand I have a '73 that "needs work" and I'm not going to part with it. Yet.
 
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