Thank you Gentleman for your response ,I have looked at a car and taken photos ,unfortunatly its quite cluttered in there with the engine in ,but thanks for your offer John, Good suggestion with the parts manual ,W+N manual only show LHD but I will keep looking , a piping layout diagram is what I need or Photos with the engine removed, I counted 14 brake lines in my part boxes that have been up for the front end braking system,including the 4 flex lines from the wheels but not including the line coming from the rear ?. Marc I hope that you have some shots with the engine out . Thanks again.