Senna - Netflix Mini Series
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i've watched two episodes so far and am enjoying it. i am reminded that Senna died on my birthday in 1994, i was watching the San Marino GP at Imola (on TV).
I was also watching it live. It was one of those moments when you're by yourself talking out loud.. "THAT was a bad hit" and you kinda knew. Same with Greg Moore's crash. I'm thinking... I just saw someone die. Fortunately those occurrences are rare these days.
I am an F1 maniac, although I prefer older times, especially the 80s and 90s. Back then there were real races and, above all, less politics.
I was delighted when BMW employed the first Pole in F1.
I will remember 2007 and the race in Canada for the rest of my life.
If Senna had a car with safety systems like the 2007 BMW Kubica, he would have been injured but would have had a chance to survive...
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i've been a huge fan of F1 since the early 80s - i watch every race (live at time of race if at all possible). i can't say that i agree with your comment about 'the godfather' of F1. i think he single-handedly did more harm to F1 than good. he made sooooo much money from it and did little to improve it. arguably he did more than anybody else to help the rise of Ferrari (during his tenure) at the expense of other teams. rules seemed to change when the 'reds' weren't doing well and then they would miraculously be competitive again. this impacted old line teams like Williams, Jordan and Sauber ... even hurt McLaren
i can go on about other things, but i will leave it that i am happy he is no longer the boss and that F1 still lives and is expanding. i do miss BMW not being a part of it, but luckily i got to see them race a few times at Indy, and saw their engines in '84 (Dallas) ... the race that Nigel Mansell got out and tried to push his car across the finish line due to a broken gearbox. god it was hot that day.
this is my opinion - yours may vary ... and that's okay as it takes at least 2 teams to make it a real race.
i can go on about other things, but i will leave it that i am happy he is no longer the boss and that F1 still lives and is expanding. i do miss BMW not being a part of it, but luckily i got to see them race a few times at Indy, and saw their engines in '84 (Dallas) ... the race that Nigel Mansell got out and tried to push his car across the finish line due to a broken gearbox. god it was hot that day.
this is my opinion - yours may vary ... and that's okay as it takes at least 2 teams to make it a real race.
With this Godfather of formula one, it's more like you wrote.
The Godfather in the sense of divide and rule...
Bernie can be accused of a lot, including some very inelegant behavior.
This does not change the fact that his life is a ready-made script for a multi-threaded film. From drama, through action and ending with comedy.
A Big Piece of F1 History
But according to In his times it was more interesting for me on the track.
The driver's talent was definitely more important than money. Today it is different. There is also more politics and political correctness nowadays and this sport is currently a bit distorted.
And the latest announcement by the FIA president shows that F1 is also heading in the wrong direction.
The series about Senna also shows well the favoritism of Alain Prost and the double standards on the part of the F1 boss.
Nowadays, Hamilton was once the favored driver, now Verstappen is being blamed for it.
It's probably an integral part of F1
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I too am a big F1 fan, and am concerned that it is difficult to capture how great Senna was. Winning the "Race of Champions" was a huge tell (althought Fangio couldn't participate due to his age and health). I hope the series does him justice.
As to Kubica, I remain a big fan. If not for the 2008 financial crisis, I think he could have fought for the championship with BMW Sauber.
As to Bernie, yeah he was a tryant and there is a lot to dislike about his leadership. But I cut him some slack because he managed to bring F1 into the television era and kept it viable. I loved CanAm racing back in the day, but if the economics don't work the racing disappears.
As to Kubica, I remain a big fan. If not for the 2008 financial crisis, I think he could have fought for the championship with BMW Sauber.
As to Bernie, yeah he was a tryant and there is a lot to dislike about his leadership. But I cut him some slack because he managed to bring F1 into the television era and kept it viable. I loved CanAm racing back in the day, but if the economics don't work the racing disappears.
The series is really well done and captures the spirit of Senna well.
There is also a bonus episode showing how this series was shot and shows the creators' great attention to detail from various periods of Senna's life.
A great job was done.
Kubica is unfortunately very unlucky. He could be world champion. I would even say that it is at least strange.
An accident in F1, his passion for rallies, and he almost died in one of them, which blocked his path to Ferrari.
In pre-season tests he set the best times in the new Lotus. Then a terrible accident in a regional Italian rally.
Convalescence, return to racing in rallies. Victory of the world champion in WRC 2. Return to F1 in the weakest Williams in the history of the brand.
Later Alfa Romeo. The beginning of a new era in LMP2 and drama on the last lap in LeMans24.
And the guy is still damn fast with his limitations stemming from his horrific Ronde Di Andora crash.
This onboard from the video below is crazy.
A guy with a completely damaged right arm is racing through the night special stage at full speed, and what's more, his headlights illuminating the road are damaged.
The moment (2:45) when he falls off the route and almost blindly finds the rally route is not normal.
On this night stage, he gained 23 seconds of advantage over the second competitor.
Money distorts real track racing.
There are currently many PayDrivers in the field and real talents do not have money or sponsors to race in F1
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it must be great , but i confess i still need to work this a bit more to be able to get interest on F1, some other things are in the waiting list too,...
to me it is one the most boring things to watch, always same feeling about car racing, and bullfights, the only interesting moment is when the car crashes or when the bull hits the matador, hopefully noone injured, but just a bit of emotion
a lot of innovation has come from F1, street cars have improved substantially with races, but not for me to watch them, 50 laps to any circuit immediately reminds me of a hamster´s wheel
and that comes to the question, why senna was so important ? i heard he was not the most awarded driver, and that he was very good in the rain
BTW, i watched the film Rush about LAuda and the blonde brit, that was very entertaining, very well made, i will give Senna a try, thank you @Lucas
to me it is one the most boring things to watch, always same feeling about car racing, and bullfights, the only interesting moment is when the car crashes or when the bull hits the matador, hopefully noone injured, but just a bit of emotion
a lot of innovation has come from F1, street cars have improved substantially with races, but not for me to watch them, 50 laps to any circuit immediately reminds me of a hamster´s wheel
and that comes to the question, why senna was so important ? i heard he was not the most awarded driver, and that he was very good in the rain
BTW, i watched the film Rush about LAuda and the blonde brit, that was very entertaining, very well made, i will give Senna a try, thank you @Lucas
The definition of NASCAR.
My take on auto racing... the race itself can be and typically is boring except for the aforementioned crashes or exciting passes, but it's a lot more interesting to me if you put the time into knowing more about the drivers and teams, strategy, styles and the like. The Netflix series Drive to Survive is well produced and good to watch for any new F1 fan.
The other opinion about auto racing is that it's such a "rich man's" sport I don't think we'll ever see the fastest driver there is. They will never get the opportunity, which is why we see so many family members in racing. Even starting in karting is expensive to be competitive.
This series perfectly shows why Senna was so good, even in wet track conditions. In addition, he developed a special technique of maintaining the engine speed with his foot while cornering, which allowed him to overcome them much faster while maintaining the stability of the car he was driving.
The following video with the Honda NSX shows this well.
Karting is a sport that shapes the driver and allows him to develop his own driving style.
Without knowledge of the entire F1 environment (drivers, entries for a given year, ideas of car designers, shape of the track, teams' strategies) and many other aspects of racing in F1, the race itself may actually be boring for a person watching an F1 race for the first time.
Unfortunately, the current regulations are slowly killing this sport, among other things, because the cars are getting heavier and this does not help in racing and, above all, in overtaking.
The lack of refueling also deprived this discipline of additional emotions.
But she is still the queen of motorsport and I secretly hope that the current head of the FIA will quickly retire. Drivers are becoming more and more frustrated and have been venting about it recently.
If the FIA's policy and its approach to racing continue to be the same as it is now, there may be a split and there are already rumors about the creation of a new racing series...
I sincerely recommend watching several seasons from the past (1970s and 1980s), which are available on:
After a few seasons of this period, you will see that F1 is not as boring as it may seem.
just like golf...IMHO