Water temperature gauge problems

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Hi all,

I took my E9 out for a quick spin today (spring has finally arrived ... sort of :lol: ) and discovered that the water temperature gauge has developed some sort of problem - an electrical one I believe.

This is how the problem manifests itself: When the car is running the temperature gauge shows the engine being 'hot', i.e. the needle is sitting somewhere between horizontal and the red field, i.e. above the horizontal. This is the case regardless of whether the car is driving (plenty of cold cooling wind) or idling.

Last year I replaced the water pump, the thermostat, the viscous clutch and all hoses, i.e. I know the cooling system is in good shape. Furthermore I know the engine is not hot, because when I switch off the engine and then switch the ignition key back to Position I (i.e. I don't start the engine), the temperature gauge shows the correct temperature, i.e. the needle is somewhere under the horizontal position. In other words, the temperature gauge is only showing 'too hot' when the engine is running.

The needle also displays another very odd behaviour which leads me to believe that there may be a short somewhere. When I switch off the engine, the water temp needle jumps all the way to the top of red field and stays there for approx. 2 seconds :(

Here's what I have tried:
Initially I thought it was a temperature sender problem, so I swapped the temperature sender with another one which I had lying around. After that I swapped the actual instrument which I also happen to have a spare of.
Finally I tried to connect the temperature sender directly .. and with a separate wire to the temp. instrument ... the gauge is still acting up
:x

Oh by the way I also vented the cooling system to make absolutely sure there were no air pockets in the system.

I suppose it could still be a faulty temp. sender even though I fitted another one however isn't it unlikely that 2 senders should cause the same 'behaviour'? As I said it looks like an electrical problem, but what electrics are involved other than the wire running directly from the temp. sender to the instrument?

Any thoughts on this annoying problem will be most appreciated :)

Cheers
 
This is one of the symptoms of a cracked head or bad head gasket with exhaust gas getting into the cooling system. Any water coming out of the tailpipe? For your sake I hope it may be something else.
 
hmmm

THis is kinda "off", but BMW 2002s were cursed with a bad instrument cluster ground which would cause inappropriate behavior of the gages.

Suggest you verify your gage is grounded, all the way back to the battery. On a couple of my cars there was an auxiliary ground wire to the body.
 
Re: hmmm

All,

I figured out what the problem was... Honolulu, you're on the right track :)

For anyone interested, the problem was poor ground (earth) between the battery and the body!

I was able to demonstrate this very convincingly by running the following test: With a running engine I took a jump cable and connected the battery ground to the engine block. Immediately the needle of the water temperature gauge jumped down to its correct position :shock: :shock:

I would recommend all to check this: With the engine running check the voltage between the battery poles (should be 13V-14V). Then check the voltage between the battery + and the engine block... you should get the same reading. If you don't, you need to check the grounding :)

I installed a ground lead between the battery - (minus) and the engine block. Now I have perfect ground which has solved the temp. gauge problem and the starter motor also spins much quicker now :D
 
Gauge inconsistency in older BMW's is almost ALWAYS related to a ground issue. The stock temp gauges are notorious. It's worth considering mounting an aftermarket gauge in an inconspicuous location to have a second opinion available when the dash gauge goes bugnuts. Based on the readings from my temp gauge, the head on my engine should be shaped like a Pringles chip... :lol:
 
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