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Well the lead photo, anyways...

Gorgeous Heidegger livery
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Ed
 
Awesome car. Terrific stance! Is there a place around here where the details of that suspension are laid out? For example, what size are those tires and wheels? Has there been any modifications to the suspension bits, like arm length or mounting points, that are different than stock? I know the race cars are completely different but this looks like a road car. I'd love to build one like this. I wouldn't even begin to know what to search for.

Whoops! It is indeed a race car, my bad. Well, are there still the suspension details out there?
 
oop...see comment below...

edited to simply say: I like!
 
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BUT ... it is kind of a shame it wasn't re-done with the original Heidegger bodywork, even though that was pretty fugly-lookin "back in the day"

My mistake...was thinking of the earliest schnitzer bodywork from the old tuner comparison article

....horribly embarrassed....
 
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1 of 3 made, original engine, inka, perfect fender flares, marchal decals....who do I pay??
 
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In the front this car has a classical adjustable Bilstein setup.
This is easily done and not very expensive: you send a pair of struts to Bilstein and they modify them to Gr2 spec.
In the rear the shocks are also "standard" Gr2.
These parts/mods are not listed in their catalogues, but available.

I do not know if the springs have been changed since 2014, when I sold the car.
In 2006 after I had the struts and rear shocks done by Bilstein, I picked them up in Ennepetal, then drove to Eibach in Finnentrop.
The car was put on a test bench and they calculated everything.
Front springs were chosen from their ERS range.
The rear springs were one offs made to match the rest of the chassis.
They were sent to me a few weeks after the visit.

At that time I was using Schnitzer adjustable sway bars front and rear.
When I parted with the car I kept the Schnitzer parts and installed a rear adjustable sway bar from Alpina and a thick non adjustable one in the front.

The current wheels are not original BBS, but replicas from RS-Felgen, which were bought in the end of 2014 by the next owner. The tyres are Michelin TB15.

I regret that the successive sellers tend to transform the history of the car, little by little.
There have been more than 4 owners, at least 7 if I remember well.
And these cars were not built by Heidegger as race cars, "only" as a very fast road cars.
Max Heidegger told me that racing the CSLs would have been too expensive for them.
They prefered to concentrate on their Gr2 2002s.

It is a great car anyway, with a fantastic roadholding.

Marc
 
Thank you so much for the history, Marc; especially the photos and suspension specifications. Stunning car.

Those inverted shocks can be difficult to locate... I had to buy a whole car to acquire some in 2002 configuration; and those still need to be rebuilt by Bilstein. I'm still searching for a set of inverted struts to go with them.

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Ed Z
 
Thank you so much for the history, Marc; especially the photos and suspension specifications. Stunning car.

Those inverted shocks can be difficult to locate... I had to buy a whole car to acquire some in 2002 configuration; and those still need to be rebuilt by Bilstein. I'm still searching for a set of inverted struts to go with them.

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Ed Z

Ask Bilstein directly.
Inverted struts a just normal struts, emptied and lightly modified so that they can house an "upside-down" insert.
The upside-down inserts are made of standardized parts which are used in many other sports or race cars.
If you compare newly modified sruts and original ones from the 70s... there is no difference except the color.

The old Gr2 rear shocks (like yours) are NLA in their original form.
You can have them refurbished by Bilstein as long as the thin rod has not too much wear.
A few years ago, they told me that they have no more of these rods.
Of course you can still order shocks with the desired settings - you just lose the period looks.

A specialist here in Switzerland told me that he can restore them. I gave him a pair of worn ones, but they have not come back yet.
 
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Fantastic news, Marc. Thanks for the info on the struts. I suppose Bilstein will get more of my Christmas money... :)

Ed Z
 
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