My new shop said I should always try to get gasoline with ethanol. Is that true?
Ethanol in gas?
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I don't think you can really avoid it, I have a motorcycle with a fiberglass tank so this is a big topic with fiberglass
It seems about the only places you can find ethanol free gas is at granges and marine
I don't think it does anything positive for you though
It seems about the only places you can find ethanol free gas is at granges and marine
I don't think it does anything positive for you though
there is a website to find ethanol free
I would be interested in what someone thinks is the benefit of ethanol
I would be interested in what someone thinks is the benefit of ethanol
i remember @Stevehose mentioning a website .... perhaps this one - https://www.pure-gas.org/
I avoid ethanol in all of my "part time" vehicles. I have not heard of any benefits outside of heavily boosted performance engines.
In Michigan we can find pump gas called "recreational fuel" that is ethanol free. It's a dollar more per gallon but good piece of mind.
In Michigan we can find pump gas called "recreational fuel" that is ethanol free. It's a dollar more per gallon but good piece of mind.
Here in the U.K. we have 5% ethanol petrol and have use it in our cars without a problem.
but it is going to change soon so the cheaper petrol will be 10 % ethanol and will damage the cars and so should be avoided. Our only option then is to use the more expensive 98 octane petrol which will remain 5 % for a few years yet. After than I think the only often is additives.
can you get still get petrol with no ethanol in the US?
but it is going to change soon so the cheaper petrol will be 10 % ethanol and will damage the cars and so should be avoided. Our only option then is to use the more expensive 98 octane petrol which will remain 5 % for a few years yet. After than I think the only often is additives.
can you get still get petrol with no ethanol in the US?
We've had 95E10 and 98E5 since 2011 in Finland, and they're the only options you'll find at a regular gas station.
It was a huge deal when the E10 was rolled out, because everyone believed it to destroy everything in your fuel system, especially on older cars.
But truth be told, I haven't heard of anyone having any problems with that, and there's always been alot of older cars rolling on our roads (not classics - just old/very old dailys).
That said, I'm always using the 98E5 in my BMWs.
It was a huge deal when the E10 was rolled out, because everyone believed it to destroy everything in your fuel system, especially on older cars.
But truth be told, I haven't heard of anyone having any problems with that, and there's always been alot of older cars rolling on our roads (not classics - just old/very old dailys).
That said, I'm always using the 98E5 in my BMWs.
I think it is methanol that is used in high performance engines
long article on crazy fuels: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/hrdp-1304-what-is-nitromethane-anyway/
and they have an app for traveling.
What refinery makes ethanol free pump gas? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Many of the 'tuned' turbo cars over here run E85 to get the last horsepower out of the system, I think it's common in the US as well.
Pump Gas or E85 for Boosted Street Engines? | Borowski Race Engines
E85 is a highly oxygenated fuel consisting of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. Many motorsports enthusiasts overlook E85 for performance applications because they associate it with low performance, flex-fuel vehicles. This primary usage of E85 does not take advantage of any of its potential...
I can't recall the details of the conversation to a T but talking with a Mitsubishi Evo owner who is playing around with boost levels told me the benefit to E85. There is a huge HP benefit to running the stuff but in the end only HP wins. The chemistry of it requires about 10-15% more fuel over gasoline, so everything had to get bigger from the pump to the injectors. Then there is the shelf life problem.Many of the 'tuned' turbo cars over here run E85 to get the last horsepower out of the system, I think it's common in the US as well.
Pump Gas or E85 for Boosted Street Engines? | Borowski Race Engines
E85 is a highly oxygenated fuel consisting of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. Many motorsports enthusiasts overlook E85 for performance applications because they associate it with low performance, flex-fuel vehicles. This primary usage of E85 does not take advantage of any of its potential...borowskirace.com
Personally I enjoyed smelling 108 Race fuel at the vintage races this weekend.
Scott,
I have used gas w 10% ethanol in all my street classic cars without problems for many years. I religiously add a fuel stabilizer each time I fill up. If a tank of the stuff has been sitting for more than 8 months I drain it and use it in my snowblower of modern cars. Also? I store my cars in a dehumidifier space so I usually leave only a small
Amount of gas in the tank over the winter. That way I can fill Up in the spring and have mostly fresh in the tank.
I have had 10% ethanol gas go stale in a storage container, even with fuel stabilizer, after about 2.5 years. I disposed of that at our town’s hazardous waste facility.
The only place I don’t use gas w ethanol is in my generators because they sit for long periods of time. Here, I use leaded race gas with fuel stabilizer. That combo seems to stay usable for years and years. it is expensive ($6-$11 a gallon).
Here in New England we have a some of stations that sell non-ethanol gas (nearest one is 15 miles away) , plus small airports (many) and power sports shops (in sealed cans).
Personally, if you are going thru tanks of gas regularly and your fuel system is not on original 50 year old flexible lines, I’d use gas containing up to 10% ethanol and not worry about it.
John
If our cars sit for a while we will fill with non ethanol which the octane level is between regular and premium. If we are driving them every few month we will use the ethanol fuel with no bad effects. Another option if you are near an airport is to run 100LL aviation fuel as long as you don't have a catalytic converter. The downside is it is more expensive.
TodB
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Most of the non ethanol I’ve seen locally is 90 octane or less.
I add 4-6 ozs of marvels at fill up to both my coupe and 02. Both run 93 octane w/ethanol. Both are driven at least weekly. When I first got my 02 back from the motor rebuild, I had some issues with hesitations and stalling at stop lights that I concluded were due to fuel boiling (there is NOT a phenolic block under the carb mount). That all went away when I started adding the marvels. Snake oil? Maybe, but I swear by it. And it smells good.
I add 4-6 ozs of marvels at fill up to both my coupe and 02. Both run 93 octane w/ethanol. Both are driven at least weekly. When I first got my 02 back from the motor rebuild, I had some issues with hesitations and stalling at stop lights that I concluded were due to fuel boiling (there is NOT a phenolic block under the carb mount). That all went away when I started adding the marvels. Snake oil? Maybe, but I swear by it. And it smells good.
Here in VT non-ethanol fuel is readily available. Usually 91-93 octane. That's all I run in my cars and small engines. Ethanol as I recall has 10% less energy in it than gas, and will gum up your carbs if left undrained over the winter. I also run non-ethanol out of principal, as this corn-based fuel is heavily subsidized.
If you remember, Scott's original question was the opinion that he should always use gas WITH ethanol, if I understand correctly
That is correct. I was surprised when I searched for this I did not see a thread on this topic. Perhaps I missed it. It was just surprising to learn from my mechanic that using ethanol was preferred. I’m not sure if this mechanic is any good though