Pirelli Cinturato CN36 175 70R 15 - OK for a 2000CS?

I looked installing CN36s on my 15" Wed Bavarias. I was looking at the 215 60R 15, and my conclusion was that they would fit and work well. Ultimately after driving a couple of other coupes with Continentals on them, I changed to Coupe King wheels and Continental Contisport 2s.

The 175 70R 15 will require about 15mm of additional outward clearance as compared to the original 195 70R 14s that came on our cars, so rolling your fenders would be recommended if you go with that size.
 
HB Chris said:
After 10K miles not that happy with the CN36.
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so what would you consider buying that is available in the market? i know this varies depending on 14", 15" and 16". since i have 15" wheels, my choices of vintage tires are based on 215/60-15 ... and the choices aren't that wide. cn-36, p7 and a few others.
 
Ohmess said:
I looked installing CN36s on my 15" Wed Bavarias. I was looking at the 215 60R 15, and my conclusion was that they would fit and work well. Ultimately after driving a couple of other coupes with Continentals on them, I changed to Coupe King wheels and Continental Contisport 2s.

The 175 70R 15 will require about 15mm of additional outward clearance as compared to the original 195 70R 14s that came on our cars, so rolling your fenders would be recommended if you go with that size.
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I definitely do not want to do any fender rolling so I guess those are out. The white 2000CA that sold on BAT last June had my wheels and Goodyear Eagle RS-A at 195 60 15. They must fit, plus they're affordable and readily available. Talk me out of them.
 
Also depends on wheel offset. I have 205-60-15 on 7 inch rims on mine. No arch metal work but I had to make mods for full lock turns to front apron and wheel housing. Check one rim and tire on the front for inner clearance and vs strut.
 
After finishing my recent 1,000 mile drive I noticed that both front tires have a crack around the entire perimeter between the shoulder and the sidewall after 15,000 miles, not good and won’t buy again.
 
HB Chris said:
After finishing my recent 1,000 mile drive I noticed that both front tires have a crack around the entire perimeter between the shoulder and the sidewall after 15,000 miles, not good and won’t buy again.
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Is there a date code on them? I would imagine some of these older style tires may be NOS.. and as such may have aged a bit
 
Interesting commentary regards the Pirelli CN36. Very specialized tire. One of the very few that have been granted N code status for what I recall is correct for Porsche 1969 - 1976. Could be wrong here, but close. An amazing rubber composition that has it rating noticeably above any other tire in whatever size you choose.

But...seriously expensive. Add to that the temperature caveats. Read the fine print. I accept in SoCal, this will not apply, but in many other jurisdictions, there is a cold temperature limit where Pirelli states moving this tire around at 7 Celsius can cause cracking, and /or damage.

These tires are so good on dry, that I believe the dose of silica is so high and that it is probably not happy at colder temps.

Seems a work around is to not move the tire in cold temps.

I have read thread where it is suggested to bring the tire "indoors". when temperatures plummet.

I am sure many who own these tires love them, and live with the "maintenance" that his suggested by Pirelli and get great response from this compound.

You never really know until they are on your car.

Where I live these tires are seriously expensive, so much analysis is required. I mean, if the tire time clock ticks towards 7 or 10 years, we must be sure of our choices.

On my '72 3.0CS with 15 inch Rikens, I have just fitted a new set of 205/65R15 Continentals. Easily available, top tier manufacturer, and what looks better on a German car than a German tire?

Car tracks straight and true. Great investment.

I am sure your mileage may vary. Just my 2 cents.

Mike
 
Mike, Very interesting as 7c is only 45f. I was in South Lake Tahoe and it got to 32 overnight! My detailer in the trunk was partially frozen. Coupe wouldn’t start until I held the chokes open as they were never set for that cold temperature. They still have had uneven wear issues and have been noisy as they have worn. If you think these are expensive then check out the XWX which are on my 2800 and they are a much better tire.
 
Thanks Chris, I have looked at those as well. I could not get them easily and didn't want to wait, so went with what I had purchased last time. Here is a paragraph from the Pirelli Limited Wattanty. A 17 page document you can find easily on line. Makes reference to the temperature limitations.
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bluecoupe30! said:
Thanks Chris, I have looked at those as well. I could not get them easily and didn't want to wait, so went with what I had purchased last time. Here is a paragraph from the Pirelli Limited Wattanty. A 17 page document you can find easily on line. Makes reference to the temperature limitations.
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This is not limited to the Pirelli CN36. I discovered this limitation after putting new 255/40R21 tires on my Audi. Cost was about $500 each (!!). Drove to southern Yosemite for a few days with my wife and it snowed. I started wondering about these brand new summer tires, and found that they had the same 47 degree lower bound. Here I was, planning to drive home on snowy roads after sitting for three days in the snow, and discovering that my expensive new tires might disintegrate on the way...

The next day dawned sunny and clear, and the road was clear. So I drove at about 20 mph for 20 minutes until I was pretty sure the tires had warmed up.. No damage, but the next time I bought tires (which on this car was only about 20K miles later) I switched to Michelin Pilot Sport All Season tires..
 
audiomagnate said:
I definitely do not want to do any fender rolling so I guess those are out. The white 2000CA that sold on BAT last June had my wheels and Goodyear Eagle RS-A at 195 60 15. They must fit, plus they're affordable and readily available. Talk me out of them.
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I'm not familiar with those tires, and I can't think of any coupe onwers who run them. Then again, there are not very many who run 15" wheels.

Tire Rack rates them pretty well.

They are about 2% smaller than the stock 14" 195 70r 14 tire so would drop your ride height by 7mm. Hardly noticeable.
 
I too like the Michelin XWX but they have the same low temperature caution as the CN36’s. I run them on my MB 300 SEL 6.3 and I have been caught in light snow conditions without incident.
 
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