Pictures of Italian Turn Indicators and Euro Running Lights

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I know I said in a previous post that my 2011 coupe funds were depleted but I had go for the new italian turn signal lenses that CoupeKing is currently selling.

Also, I've had these euro running lights sitting in a box for a couple of years. I finally got around to installing them. They're off of a true euro csi. They a have a little bulb that lights up when the running lights are on. Sort of early angle eyes. I haven't seen them before, are they common?

Anyway, here's pictures...
 

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Nice pics of a nice car!

Cool to see the italian turn signal lenses irl..

Regarding the "angle eyes". On euro cars they are on the main light (outer) and called position light or parking light (depends on countries) Never seen those 5 w lamps in a headlamp (inner) before.
 
Must....have...those...euro...city....lights....where can I get them?

vince said:
Also, I've had these euro running lights sitting in a box for a couple of years. I finally got around to installing them. They're off of a true euro csi. They a have a little bulb that lights up when the running lights are on. Sort of early angle eyes. I haven't seen them before, are they common?
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you need to fix that...

Vince- the city lights go on the outside.
The low beam lamp with H1 bulb and city lights goes outboard.
You have it backwards.
 
sfdon said:
Vince- the city lights go on the outside.
The low beam lamp with H1 bulb and city lights goes outboard.
You have it backwards.
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You might be right. I put them in the same position as they were on the the car I got them off of. It was a perfect csi that was involved in a little incident. He imported it and was the second owner of the car; he had it for years. He owned a local BMW indy shop in the Portland area for the last few years and he specialized in the earlier stuff. I fiquired if anyone know where the lights should go - he would.

But hey, who are the real e9 experts? The members of this board are!

It's a pretty easy fix. Anyone want to weight in before I move them to the outside?
 
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My car is a Euro '73 CSi built in '72. My headlights were converted to sealed beams and I want to covert back to H4 high with an H1 with city light low.

Question is should I go with US version or Euro version?

I plan to have a qualified shop install them and sort the headlight and side marker wiring. Not sure if my side markers are meant to be on when the headlight switch is in the first pull out position.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Look at the euro schematic- it shows two bulbs in the outside low beam headlight.
#7 in the diagram.

http://www.e9coupe.com/tech/autobooks/appendix/autobooks_manual_155.htm


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The City light is a European thing. The big cities of Europe are very well lit and many restrict the use of low beams to reduce light polution. To make cars more visable to pedestrians, The City or Position Light is required to be on whenever the ignition is on."

54 bucks at susqehanna

Some simple thoughts for position- high beam lenses are symmetric and low beams are asymmetrical shaped for focusing low and away. Which headlight lense has the city light on your car?
When driving from country to country they used to require covering up part of a lens because of that asymmetrical lens.
Euro BMW manuals have a section on that...
 

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sfdon said:
Which headlight lense has the city light on your car?
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Currently my car has no city lights, as an Italian delivery CSi it should. I think for federalization they were changed to US sealed beams. They work fine as is.

I want to make the car correct as delivered.
 
Here is a pic for you- one is H1 and one is H4. Both are low beams with city lights.
Euro low beams with H1 bulbs have a shield inside the lamp.
Daniel Stern is another good source.
 

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BTW - I have four Italian cars in the shop now.
Let me know if you want pics of anything.
 
City Lights - installation

Be sure to have H1 bulbs and 4 watt city light bulbs and 16 gauge wire

1. Remove grill
2. Remove trim ring
3. remove H4 bulb
4. see Current H4 wires = yellow low beam - white high beam - ground brown
5. Disconnect white snip off spade and tape off.
6. Remove turn signal
7. Disconnect parking light (not turn signal)
8. Disconnect spade and connect a new wire to the first wire, connect to new spade and reconnect to the
9. Connect new wire to the city light
10. connect ground to brown wire to ground
11. connect yellow wire to power

Under the dash near the fuse box, access the 5 prong harness junction block. See the yellow and yellow with white wires. Using a tiny screw driver remove the pins to those 2 wires from the block, snip the spade, attach the jumper-wire and connect a new spade and reconnect.

Of coursed I have not done this on mine yet but I have the lights...
 
My understanding is that if you go with the H4 city light set up you are essentially trading the high beam lamp in that low beam light for the city light. Correct? No way to keep the high function and have a city light?
 
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