3.0 CSL feature on 'Deals on Wheels' UK TV show from 2000

Bah!

Channel 4 is probably worried that you guys will steal the format and put a voiceover of Oprah on it or something.

Okay, I'm currently extracting the video and will post it on my youtube channel. (I'll probably go to prison for this).

Stay tuned!
 
Reasonably well done considering it's TV...Wheeler Dealers is unwatchable though! They "make" 50 quid flipping a car without considering the 2000 quid in that mechanic guy's labour.
 
Reasonably well done considering it's TV...Wheeler Dealers is unwatchable though! They "make" 50 quid flipping a car without considering the 2000 quid in that mechanic guy's labour.

The wheeler dealers were on stage answering questions at a car show last weekend. Someone put the point you made to them and they explained that the guy that does all the work (ed china) is meant to represent 'you'. 'You wouldn't charge yourself to work on your own car' was how he compounded the idea. I thought that made sense and they should explain that more in the show.
 
Wow, were those cars good investments if you bought in 2000.
 
Yea but the opportunity cost is not accounted for - sure you can do the labor yourself and make it worthwhile if you're keeping the car, but they are presenting it like they make money so in reality Ed would be better off findng another job :lol:

The wheeler dealers were on stage answering questions at a car show last weekend. Someone put the point you made to them and they explained that the guy that does all the work (ed china) is meant to represent 'you'. 'You wouldn't charge yourself to work on your own car' was how he compounded the idea. I thought that made sense and they should explain that more in the show.
 
Yea but the opportunity cost is not accounted for - sure you can do the labor yourself and make it worthwhile if you're keeping the car, but they are presenting it like they make money so in reality Ed would be better off finding another job :lol:

Parlor room observations:

Edd (the engineer) probably does quite well doing product endorsements, motivational speaking, and selling his autograph at trade shows. If he hasn't attached his name to gloves and hand cleaners . . . he should. His height probably entitles him to combat pay under Equity rules when he is faced with working on extremely compact vehicles. He might be good on a crossover venue for "This Old House" and many other popular reality based programming. :lol:

Most reality-based (fantasy) programming has to have a wee bit of scripting, if only to accommodate in-the-field logistics and, of course, the production crew. Some suspension of disbelief is also in order, particularly where the show is pitched to a broad based audience rather than a narrow field of hobbyists. Does the show ever depict the crew having to pitch in when the subject vehicle needs a jump start in the field, or when essential parts are inadvertently strewn across the garage floor? :wink:

Purchasing and/or selling a car while being under the camera's glare - in 45 seconds - is magic. But more to your point, as to the show's underlying premise, not every shadetree mechanic is blessed with a lift and complete complement of tools, with a crew or unseen and (probably remunerated) assistants to ensure everything is in place - when the camera is rolling. I am not familiar enough with the show to offer many relevant observations, but every so often, the shadetree will have to do more than expediently replace a part with something new or used. Instead, he may have to improvise and take a shortcut or two. The Charger episode, which I just viewed, is one such example.

Because I was not a first hand witness, protruding leaf spring shackles could have easily been cut or modified, rather than replaced as a means of saving costs. It was not clear exactly how the vehicle's stance was affected after the replacement. This includes the fact that the leaf springs themselves might have been slightly "tired" after 40 years of stress. One also marvels at the ability to touch up a car with an off-the-shelf can of spray paint. Can't imagine how long that finish will continue to please the new owner - when exposed to the "always mild and dry" British Isles. :wink:

From what I have seen, I like the show. I wouldn't mind it so much if the players were forced to confront a few realistic fix it conundrums other than resorting to internet ordering of and R&R front wheel bearings. But maybe the program would lose some of its mass appeal.

To paraphrase Python: If we are depicted filming the action, who is filming us?
 
The show is made for television so I can imagine everything that looks spontaneous and natural is actually heavily scripted. Having said that, the show is not lying that they buy a tired car, 'restore' it (to a degree) then sell it on. Ed and Mike clearly get a salary from the Discovery Channel so the 'profit' they make is neither here nor there. As was explained at that live show I saw them at: Ed is you, the enthusiastic DIYer.

Because I was not a first hand witness, protruding leaf spring shackles could have easily been cut or modified, rather than replaced as a means of saving costs. It was not clear exactly how the vehicle's stance was affected after the replacement. This includes the fact that the leaf springs themselves might have been slightly "tired" after 40 years of stress. One also marvels at the ability to touch up a car with an off-the-shelf can of spray paint. Can't imagine how long that finish will continue to please the new owner - when exposed to the "always mild and dry" British Isles. :wink:
You could see by the position of the bolt holes on the original shackles that there would be a (marginal) difference in the height of the rear of the car. I didn't see an issue there. In other episodes Ed has used Hammerite black 'stone chip shield' which is fairly resilient stuff and perfectly suitable for a budget conscious DIYer to use to dress up part of the undercarriage in my view.

Having said all that, I have found myself shouting at the screen when they attempt to 'restore' a car that I may have owned or otherwise know very well. Also, I'm suspicious of whether they did managed to shift some of the cars (the two VW camper vans for example – you should watch those episodes for a laugh).
 
… According to those that allegedly know, vehicle sales may be staged, wherein relatives or friends of the show are cajoled into playing the purchaser…
I think that's just the idle gossip of the wheeler dealer hatin' keyboard warriors.

Is there never any disappointment, for example when overly officious MOT personnel flunk a vehicle?

Oh yeah bigtime. There's an episode where Ed royally buggers up both front wings of a Ford Capri and they end up selling it at an embarrassing loss. Also, on one terrible episode Ed attempts to convert a Suzuki jeep into some land destroying super-offroader, it fails its MOT due to serious corrosion and they end up selling it at a huge loss. Actually, that is one episode where the chap who does 'buy' it could very well be the tea-boy's mate.

I think all these episodes are on youtube (is where I watched them). Is worth giving them a view if you ever find yourself at a very loose end.
 
Mike Brewster has a website where the Dodge Charger is apparently being offered for sale. Does this mean that the sale I thought I witnessed did not transpire? (Buyer's remorse after watching the car being thrashed on a dragstrip?) :lol:
 
I heard a whisper that Mike "Wheeler Dealer" Brewer, was filming at a BMW vintage meet in Los Angeles. Episode evidently focuses on an '02.

Someone may have just bought a "crackin" motor. :wink:


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Yes, Mike Brewer and the Wheeler Dealer crew were filming at the Meet Saturday. The are restoring a US spec '74 tii and were looking for Euro bumper conversion kits. Barn find car that hasn't run in 17 years, but no rust and clean. When they said they hadn't started the car yet, I let them know where they can have the K-fish pump rebuilt. Of course it could run just fine....
Jeff
 

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