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deQ, my favorite thing to do with mushrooms + fish = saute a couple of tablespoons of chopped shallots in a tablespoon of butter until softened. add mushrooms + stir until soft - if the pan dries out, add some chicken stock. when the mushrooms are cooked, add 4 oz of chicken stock and reduce to a glaze ... then toss in a couple of cups of arugula (rocket for the brits) and wilt for 30 seconds or so. this takes 5 to 7 minutes total so it equals a lot of perfect time for cooking fish. i serve this with grilled swordfish (seasoned with salt, pepper + fresh thyme and coated with olive oil) or with a sauteed flaky white fish like Halibut or Red Snapper.
 
deQ, my favorite thing to do with mushrooms + fish = saute a couple of tablespoons of chopped shallots in a tablespoon of butter until softened. add mushrooms + stir until soft - if the pan dries out, add some chicken stock. when the mushrooms are cooked, add 4 oz of chicken stock and reduce to a glaze ... then toss in a couple of cups of arugula (rocket for the brits) and wilt for 30 seconds or so. this takes 5 to 7 minutes total so it equals a lot of perfect time for cooking fish. i serve this with grilled swordfish (seasoned with salt, pepper + fresh thyme and coated with olive oil) or with a sauteed flaky white fish like Halibut or Red Snapper.

I appreciate the recipe; I'm sure it's delicious; but if you let me comment, there are some things I find difficult to accept in my case when implementing it.

Chicken broth is hardly compatible with fish. If you want to add liquid, it's better to prepare a fumet with the fish bones. This allows for a sufficient liquid base for when necessary.

In our case, butter is out of the question. It provides a very strong reference, and we substitute it with oil, sunflower or olive oil, if necessary.

Cultures that haven't had olive oil as a base in their cooking have used other elements, such as butter in France and Holland, or pork fat in Germany, for example. I recently saw that in Japan, they lubricate the pan for cooking waygu meat with a piece of fat. All of these elements are tasty, but they are harsh on our palates (except the last one).

We are fortunate or unfortunate to have olive oil as an essential and economical standard for cooking. In Japan, 250ml costs $40, while here, a liter costs $5 (always talking about AOVE and only extracted cold with mechanical methods).

On the other hand, combining mushrooms with shallots and arugula could be confusing in the case of the mushrooms I've presented.

I agree with using a sautéed onion with champignons, for example. I would even add a little white wine, or if I wanted to emphasize it, a few drops of Pedro Ximénez at the end. But spring mushrooms have a unique, intense, and very delicious flavor. I consider it sacrilegious to hide that flavor with other ingredients. Eggs go well with them because they are mild and almost imperceptible. They are also delicious raw.

On the other hand, if the fish is good, we don't add anything, at most a sautéed olive oil garlic and guindilla. Basque cuisine is simple and essential. If possible, we try to avoid mixing things. For example, we never add lemon to fish. I understand this may be seen as peculiar.

The hardest part is finding good fresh fish, but if you do, you can almost eat it rare or raw. We strive for the so-called "pink point."

In any case, I'd love to try everything and speak with knowledge.

You're invited to my table if you visit these parts; and I'd let you cook, too, so both of us can try our dishes.
 
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well, Thomas Keller, a 3 star Michelin chef might disagree with you ... since its a slight variation of one of his recipes. using so little, just to turn into a glaze to wilt the arugula works just fine. you could use a fumet or white wine, but give the chicken stock a try, it may surprise you as it works well with mushrooms. the mushrooms i use are either chanterelle or shiitake. i would use a milder olive oil, but a neutral oil is fine to cook the shallots in rather than butter - with only 1 Tbls, its not a lot to add much flavor.

we are relatively lucky, a decent 500 mL bottle of EVOO for cooking is about 10 bucks - until uncle Donald's tariffs kick in. i always have plenty on hand. i rarely add lemon to fish - if its really fresh, no need. i primarily use fresh ground kosher salt, sometimes add fresh ground black pepper and fresh thyme or basil (depending on the fish), but thyme more often than basil. i do not like over-cooked fish - i used to use the 9 minutes / inch thickness of fish ... but i generally do less than that under a broiler, in a saute' pan or on a grill.

i recently watched a bit on your part of Spain - Eva Longoria Searching for Spain - San Sebastian and the Basque country episode. the show features food in the different regions of Spain. we were also talking about it with a winemaker friend who has been going to Spain to hike the Camino de Santiago - doing 150 - 200 miles / trip. last year we spent a couple of weeks in the south of Spain (Madrid, Barcelona + Granada), but next time we will be up in your area.
 
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well, Thomas Keller, a 3 star Michelin chef might disagree with you ... since its a slight variation of one of his recipes. using so little, just to turn into a glaze to wilt the arugula works just fine. you could use a fumet or white wine, but give the chicken stock a try, it may surprise you as it works well with mushrooms. the mushrooms i use are either chanterelle or shiitake. i would use a milder olive oil, but a neutral oil is fine to cook the shallots in rather than butter - with only 1 Tbls, its not a lot to add much flavor.

we are relatively lucky, a decent 500 mL bottle of EVOO for cooking is about 10 bucks - until uncle Donald's tariffs kick in. i always have plenty on hand. i rarely add lemon to fish - if its really fresh, no need. i primarily use fresh ground kosher salt, sometimes add fresh ground black pepper and fresh thyme or basil (depending on the fish), but thyme more often than basil. i do not like over-cooked fish - i used to use the 9 minutes / inch thickness of fish ... but i generally do less than that under a broiler, in a saute' pan or on a grill.

i recently watched a bit on your part of Spain - Eva Longoria Searching for Spain - San Sebastian and the Basque country episode. the show features food in the different regions of Spain. we were also talking about it with a winemaker friend who has been going to Spain to hike the Camino de Santiago - doing 150 - 200 miles / trip. last year we spent a couple of weeks in the south of Spain (Madrid, Barcelona + Granada), but next time we will be up in your area.


op, yes, you are right, we do not have those, that guy,..., Thomas ?, he could be right if he leans to the french taste

I have not watched Eva´s documentary, i recall there was a good one from Anthony, but it was years ago, i will try to find it for you

Eva´s parents were from Asturias, you should go there, and Galicia too
 
I absolutely love how inexpensive really good olive oil is in Spain. Last time I was there I took home as much as I could fit in my suitcase - I packed with extra room on the way out and broke my no-checked-bags rule because I knew I would be bringing food and liquids home. The oil came from the local coop in a village in Andalucia that we visited. Ordinary, but extraordinary. Not just olive oil - food of all kinds, whether at the store or in a restaurant, was, by my Chicago standards, not expensive. It was wonderful.
 
well, Thomas Keller, a 3 star Michelin chef might disagree with you ... since its a slight variation of one of his recipes. using so little, just to turn into a glaze to wilt the arugula works just fine. you could use a fumet or white wine, but give the chicken stock a try, it may surprise you as it works well with mushrooms. the mushrooms i use are either chanterelle or shiitake. i would use a milder olive oil, but a neutral oil is fine to cook the shallots in rather than butter - with only 1 Tbls, its not a lot to add much flavor.

we are relatively lucky, a decent 500 mL bottle of EVOO for cooking is about 10 bucks - until uncle Donald's tariffs kick in. i always have plenty on hand. i rarely add lemon to fish - if its really fresh, no need. i primarily use fresh ground kosher salt, sometimes add fresh ground black pepper and fresh thyme or basil (depending on the fish), but thyme more often than basil. i do not like over-cooked fish - i used to use the 9 minutes / inch thickness of fish ... but i generally do less than that under a broiler, in a saute' pan or on a grill.

i recently watched a bit on your part of Spain - Eva Longoria Searching for Spain - San Sebastian and the Basque country episode. the show features food in the different regions of Spain. we were also talking about it with a winemaker friend who has been going to Spain to hike the Camino de Santiago - doing 150 - 200 miles / trip. last year we spent a couple of weeks in the south of Spain (Madrid, Barcelona + Granada), but next time we will be up in your area.
When were you in southern Spain? Susan and I were there in the latter half of October. Barcelona (saw some America's Cup stuff, Valencia, Granada, Sevilla and then off to Lisbon to see a friend who recently moved there. We loved all of it. Susan would move to Granada tomorrow!
 
When were you in southern Spain? Susan and I were there in the latter half of October. Barcelona (saw some America's Cup stuff, Valencia, Granada, Sevilla and then off to Lisbon to see a friend who recently moved there. We loved all of it. Susan would move to Granada tomorrow!
we left the USA on 30 October and came back on the 14th of November. we loved Granada also, we stayed in a 7 room hotel right below the entrance to the Alhambra ... quite the walk down to the town, or worse going back up ... but we really enjoyed our stay there. the food throughout Spain was wonderful, so many good things. we had a very memorable meal in Barcelona at a small place named Berbena - really amazing. i know deQ doesn't like butter, but there's a bakery in Barcelona named Baluard that makes a croissant that the French would claim as quite good. the wine is so enjoyable - loved the Albarino, the cava ... and of course the different reds from different regions.
 
I absolutely love how inexpensive really good olive oil is in Spain. Last time I was there I took home as much as I could fit in my suitcase - I packed with extra room on the way out and broke my no-checked-bags rule because I knew I would be bringing food and liquids home. The oil came from the local coop in a village in Andalucia that we visited. Ordinary, but extraordinary. Not just olive oil - food of all kinds, whether at the store or in a restaurant, was, by my Chicago standards, not expensive. It was wonderful.

and they did allow you to introduce it in the US ?
that is extraordinary

p.s. for our standards, olive oil is getting unnacceptably expensive, we were used at 3€/L, now it costs 5€/L, and just one year ago it was 10€/L
 
I’m in a very small fishing village now in Portugal. 10 days of fresh fish and quiet days. I have a bolt scooter for runs into Porto and to the coastline for a day at the beach. I told Wendy that I joined a scooter gang. She’s worried.
Afurada is famous for their grilled fish served at cafes set up in the streets. The charcoal gets lit up twice a day and you always know when it is lunch or dinner time.
Tiled houses, laundry drying in the streets.
Of course there is a BMW side to the story. I’m spending some days at the well regarded Csl, Alpina and Batmobile shop in Gaia.
Scott- there are 2 Batmobiles, 3 Csl and an Alpina here- I will try to get you VINs.
 

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I’m in a very small fishing village now in Portugal. 10 days of fresh fish and quiet days. I have a bolt scooter for runs into Porto and to the coastline for a day at the beach. I told Wendy that I joined a scooter gang. She’s worried.
Afurada is famous for their grilled fish served at cafes set up in the streets. The charcoal gets lit up twice a day and you always know when it is lunch or dinner time.
Tiled houses, laundry drying in the streets.
Of course there is a BMW side to the story. I’m spending some days at the well regarded Csl, Alpina and Batmobile shop in Gaia.
Scott- there are 2 Batmobiles, 3 Csl and an Alpina here- I will try to get you VINs.

it looks very nice,
love the metal tray, that is the profi way, no snobbism

i can see a long iron that has many fish insterted on it; combining prawns and squid, and something red i can not distinguish
i bet you are having excellent food
 
we left the USA on 30 October and came back on the 14th of November. we loved Granada also, we stayed in a 7 room hotel right below the entrance to the Alhambra ... quite the walk down to the town, or worse going back up ... but we really enjoyed our stay there. the food throughout Spain was wonderful, so many good things. we had a very memorable meal in Barcelona at a small place named Berbena - really amazing. i know deQ doesn't like butter, but there's a bakery in Barcelona named Baluard that makes a croissant that the French would claim as quite good. the wine is so enjoyable - loved the Albarino, the cava ... and of course the different reds from different regions.
We stayed at an AirBnB in the Albayzin right on the river looking up at the Alhambra. Really wonderful place. Took a very long walking tour with a guide all over the Albayzin, and another through the Alhambra. Loved the food and wine!
 
and they did allow you to introduce it in the US ?
that is extraordinary

p.s. for our standards, olive oil is getting unnacceptably expensive, we were used at 3€/L, now it costs 5€/L, and just one year ago it was 10€/L
Yes, there is no issue with bringing something like olive oil into the US. Cured meats and younger cheeses there is definitely an issue if customs finds it but I have done it anyway. Seeing one of those whole legs of jamón in a Corte Ingles, I did want to buy another suitcase just to take one home. Whatever grade you care to get, in the US it costs a fortune. Good-enough olive oil, the kind you cook with, is around $15/L. Really good oil is double that.
 
we left the USA on 30 October and came back on the 14th of November. we loved Granada also, we stayed in a 7 room hotel right below the entrance to the Alhambra ... quite the walk down to the town, or worse going back up ... but we really enjoyed our stay there. the food throughout Spain was wonderful, so many good things. we had a very memorable meal in Barcelona at a small place named Berbena - really amazing. i know deQ doesn't like butter, but there's a bakery in Barcelona named Baluard that makes a croissant that the French would claim as quite good. the wine is so enjoyable - loved the Albarino, the cava ... and of course the different reds from different regions.
I remember several hotels along the road up to the Alhambra. We walked back to town after our tour, and saw a number of tourists hauling luggage up the hill .
 
luckily we were able to take a taxi from the train station to the hotel - no climbing that hill with baggage. this is one of those places with no real signage but it has great views. for those that have never been to Granada, its a great place to spend a couple of days - food + scenery is really great ... of course the food throughout Spain is fantastic.
 
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