$17,850 for a very nice 1973 3.0CS.... Guys where are all the buyers??

[execmalibu]

Mark at Huntington Ridge Motors has a VERY NICE 73 E9 in a good color combo (Polaris with Blue) and the car has ultra low miles at only 79,000...

The are only 3 hours left and the car has only bid to $17,850! with NO reserve!

I hope someone will prove me wrong and will buy this car for what it should be worth... I my opinion this E9 is worth a lot because of the condition and milage and should sell for $24,000-$28,000...

Some have said I stole the GREAT PUMPKIN but if this car does not bring those numbers then my opinion that E9s sale prices are dead is accurate....

Prove me wrong PLEEEASE!

 

[Nicad]

Why no mention of structural rust on an ad by an E9 specialist? Seems odd to me that no claims are made if it is in VG condition. From those photos it looks to be in nice shape cosmetically.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ck=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#v4-46

When I blow up the shots as much as I can it appears the panel in front of the rad was pretty pitted at one point. (Just a hunch, as I can't clearly make out what I am looking at)

 

[rsporsche]

it is an automatic. slushboxes do not draw near as much interest or money. just my opinion. this does look like a pretty nice coupe.

 

[dang]

I guess I'm picky about these things but why are the photos so small? It looks like a nice car but you can't see any real detail with photos that size. I know anyone paying that much money should have a local shop check it out before purchasing, but if you're going after a national market it makes sense to show as much detail as possible.

Dan

 

[CookeD]

What RSPorsche just said...

What does an auto to manual conversion cost if you don't do the work yourself / don't have the parts laying around? That's probably your price diff.

I think this was part of the value thread on the 35K mile car-- By and large the buyers for these cars want manual transmissions.

 

[Stevehose]

Also when you take off the "automatic" badge you're looking at a repaint or touch up if you're lucky so that factor has a cost.

What RSPorsche just said...

What does an auto to manual conversion cost if you don't do the work yourself / don't have the parts laying around? That's probably your price diff.

I think this was part of the value thread on the 35K mile car-- By and large the buyers for these cars want manual transmissions.

 

[craterface]

Converting auto to manual is at least 4k when you add up all the parts and shop time. Plus you have to hunt down the box. I paid 400 for the box. If you know anyone good in south Florida who will do mine for 3600 or less including all the little parts and driveshaft, let me know! So, this car right now is at 18600, so figure 22600 for same car with a manual. Seems about right to me.
Scott

 

[execmalibu]

$19,000 Sold... Autos are Soft agreed but that E9 should still bring $22,000 or more

I only know what is advertised and maybe the car is a rusty POS but there are some that don't mind the Autos and that car if a decent car should be worth at least $22,000-$24,000 if not more...

I know it has been for sale for a very loong time...

The other problem is that there have been original (4-5) speed cars with even chassis number 224 vs 225 that have NOT brought what they should either so the Auto trans issue is not the only determining factor...

 

[CookeD]

"Tach not working" is another potential determining factor.

 

[sirshorty]

73 cs @ HRM

Mark has had this 73 for sale for a while @27,900 which I think was to high for this car. So with a no reserve auction he basically ended up with a price drop that is close to the reduction of the great pumpkin which had all the nice upgrades done already.Maybe the prices are a bit soft right now but Mark has been helping to raise the price bar for e9s lately but not with this one. He did say it had metal work done to it in places and was basically a very nice driver . Also the A/C needed to be redone and a few other things. I saw this car in person parked on the street in Brooklyn many times over the last two years and was suprised that it was street kept. I think it was a 20k plus car but the sale price was not too out of line for that specific car as we go into winter and are still recovering from Sandy here on the east coast. . When you factor in the cost of a/c and a 5 speed conversion for those who want that, you can add 6k to that and then we are @ 25k which is a good buy for this car but not crazy cheap for it like the steal execmalibu got the pumpkin for!!. IMHO.

 

[dbower]

Hagerty values

Hagerty claims a 25% deduct for a slushbox, which seems pretty amazing to me. On the other hand, they claim a 15% add for sunroof, which seems like a lot too:

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vc=1330179

Don
72 CSA with sunroof...

 

[Lotuss7]

One word....automatic.

Conversions...OK. Rationalize cost etc., but at some point in the distant future the ultimate vale of an E9?....originality will mean something.

 

[rsporsche]

i tend to agree. if you are going for collector status. restomod - beautifully done can have a significant value, but perhaps not ultimate value. since i already have a converted slushbox to 5 spd and a 2800cs to 3.5csi ... i'm not worried about originality for this car. its going to stay a car that i'm not afraid to drive.

but i WOULD like to have a very original coupe - matching numbers, original color that could one day be a concours car.

 

[execmalibu]

Study Hagertys Graph the E9 Value has been absolutely flat for the past 5 Years

Hagertys Graph for the E9 establishes a pretty sad state of affairs as far as the value of our beautiful cars during the past (5) years... The cars have not increased in value one dime!:-(

Even during the good ole days of the strong economy the value of the E9 has remained as flat as the horizon. Forgetting the "Concours" examples. They show that a very nice, extremely clean rust free driver which is what most of our cars are, is worth $19K. Exactly what the Hunting Ridge car sold for...

They have a show car (not Concours)being worth only around $28,000-$30,000. So basically what this means to many of us is that if we get a great deal and buy a very clean E9 "Driver" for around $15,000 then spend $20,000-$30,000 on a restoration to bring it up to regional show standards, if we wanted to sell we would loose $5,000-$10,000:confused:...

Something is very wrong with this picture...

Although they do have the "Concours" examples being valuable. But to me Concours means 1000% unmodified original condition... A Concours car would still have the original smog system in place and working! When was the last time any of you saw an E9 with the smog system intact?

OK I admit that my 1974 (built 12/74) still has the complete smog system intact but is a parade bumper car ever going to be collectible? Although they were original and maybe someday after most of the big bumper cars have been modified to chrome bumpers the ones left original will be desirable?

 

[dealhunter0]

Jeff, since you've come to the realization that e9s aren't valuable and aren't appreciating... I think you should sell me some of your cars.

Let's start with the Fjord car. $15k? After all that is what everybody pays...

 

[JDJ]

One answer for this problem would be to provide better price transparency ourselves. I am sure that we could document transactions for Hagerty that would better reflect true pricing. It would be to our collective benefit.

 

[Trev]

Guess I paid way too much for Mike Pelley's Polaris 1973 last year, but it is a beauty.

 

[execmalibu]

Dealhunter0, I might sell my Fjord E9 for around the $15,500....

Dealhunter,

I seriously may consider selling my 1972 Fjord 3.0CS for EXACTLY the amount I have into the car... I have receipts and will prove the exact amount....

I paid $15,500 plus I have another $2,500-$3,500 invested... For example I installed nice blue leather seats, (4) new tires, had the scratches on the hood repainted, dash replaced etc...

I you are serious email if interested...

[email protected]

 

[dang]

That car is wet! Its worth about half its value now. ;-)

 

[execmalibu]

Dang, That is NOT WATER. It is a New Super High Tech NANO liquid that restores E9s!

Dan,

We are now in the digital age and things that we never could have imagined just ten years ago are now possible!

You have not heard about this NEW SUPER HIGH TECH NANO LIQUID called (UnobtainiumBu-llsh|t/34Q) that uses NANO technology to rearrange the molecules into a crystal like formation exactly aligned with the asymmetrical magnetic fields in the universe that RESTORES a cars finish back to original?

It is Absolutely AMAZING how well and how fast it works... But it is expensive at $500 per CC...

Take a look at the before and after results. All you do is liberally rub in on and let it sit overnight.