'71 3.0csl batmobile on Sotheby's (VIN 2211343)

this is the car right after the Olympia rally car. @BMW Pete, is the rally car the other car that was referred to in the auction that went to Broadspeed? or was that 1347?
 
rsporsche said:
this is the car right after the Olympia rally car. @BMW Pete, is the rally car the other car that was referred to in the auction that went to Broadspeed? or was that 1347?
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Hi Scott and Shane

Yes car is one vin after the factory Rally CSL :) My car never went to Broadspeed, it seems it was bouncing around BMW internally, and then in April 1972 was turned into the Rally car. The mechanics involved in my car from Motorsport, have some fun stories from back in the day with my car on a trailer being pulled by one of the three Werks Kombi's.

Interestingly, if you look at the number plate M-AH -1072 on my car and all the early CSL promotional material, even the CSL Neerpasch is driving, M-AH -1076. For six months 2211342 (Olympic Rally CSL) a brand new CSL and the third made by BMW, 4th when we count the first CSL (Alpina built car) sat around doing nothing, which I find hard to believe after being registered in 1971 and being such a brand new fun car but sadly BMW have no records of it doing anything ................one day, I hope to find a picture of M-AH -1072 being used by some BMW person, as it never left Furpark (internal BMW) until it was turned into the factory Rally CSL.

It sounds like the German owner still owns the car, although a well known dealer said he had the car in 2020, I make no judgment there, just to say that the German owner, was the same person who offered it to me in exchange for my 507 boat, when I decided to sell it about 18 months ago. Boat actually went to a big collector in Doha Qatar. I have been offered this Broadspeed car on a number of occasions over the years and a dear friend (fellow E9 guy) actually owned it before the German.

I really think it should go back to Broadspeed colors, but that's just my humble opinion.

Funny story with this and another of my CSL's. 2211352 the Dutch National racing Team CSL (Levi CSL or Cow car :) ) went to Zandvoort on April 3rd 1972, thinking BMW were going to homologate the CSL on April 1st ( yes April fools) , so the team entered it as a CSL, I understand first car ever to do so, scrutineers went, "GTF out of here boys, car has not been homologated" or something similar in Dutch, I even have a picture from April 3rd where it sits rather sadly outside scrutineers office. So for the rest of 1972 all CSLs' that entered a race, entered as CS's, but what is interesting is the Salzburg race they talk about with this car above, was a couple of weeks later on 16th April and then 2211352 started its race career, like all CSLs claiming to be as a CS two weeks after that on 30th April 1972.

Important thing for somebody to own, no doubt ........will be interesting to see what it makes

P.S. I have to smile, at how everybody added the 25 on their Motorsport color cars, after the big win at Sebring in 75 :)
 
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Does anyone have a vintage photo of this vehicle with the original paint & livery?

[On a different note, I've seen a BMW 507 at the Mecum auction during Laguna Seca historics. And I know that Coupe King here in the Los Angeles area restored one, but I never heard of the 507 boat... Had to read up on that item.. quite a story.]
 
rblongboarder said:
Does anyone have a vintage photo of this vehicle with the original paint & livery?

[On a different note, I've seen a BMW 507 at the Mecum auction during Laguna Seca historics. And I know that Coupe King here in the Los Angeles area restored one, but I never heard of the 507 boat... Had to read up on that item.. quite a story.]
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I love the purity of the original and feel this is when it was historically important.
But I know many will prefer how it is today and that's all fine as well
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BMW Pete said:
Hi Scott and Shane

Yes car is one vin after the factory Rally CSL :) My car never went to Broadspeed, it seems it was bouncing around BMW internally, and then in April 1972 was turned into the Rally car. The mechanics involved in my car from Motorsport, have some fun stories from back in the day with my car on a trailer being pulled by one of the three Werks Kombi's.

Interestingly, if you look at the number plate M-AH -1072 on my car and all the early CSL promotional material, even the CSL Neerpasch is driving, M-AH -1076. For six months 2211342 (Olympic Rally CSL) a brand new CSL and the third made by BMW, 4th when we count the first CSL, the Alpina built car, sat around doing nothing, which I find hard to believe after being registered in 1971 and being such a brand new fun car but sadly BMW have no records of it doing anything ................one day, I hope to find a picture of M-AH -1072 being used by some BMW person, as it never left Furpark (internal BMW) until it was turned into the factory Rally CSL.

It sounds like the German owner still owns the car, although a well known dealer said he had the car in 2020, I make no judgment there, just to say that the German owner, was the same person who offered it to me in exchange for my 507 boat, when I decided to sell it about 18 months ago. Boat actually went to a big collector in Doha Qatar. I have been offered this Broadspeed car on a number of occasions over the years and a dear friend (fellow E9 guy) actually owned it before the German.

I really think it should go back to Broadspeed colors, but that's just my humble opinion.

Funny story with this and another of my CSL's. 2211352 the Dutch National racing Team CSL (Levi CSL or Cow car :) ) went to Zandvoort on April 3rd 1972, thinking BMW were going to homologate the CSL on April 1st ( yes April fools) , so the team entered it as a CSL, I understand first car ever to do so, scrutineers went, "GTF out of here boys, car has not been homologated" or something similar in Dutch, I even have a picture from April 3rd where it sits rather sadly outside scrutineers office. So for the rest of 1972 all CSLs' that entered a race, entered as CS's, but what is interesting is the Salzburg race they talk about with this car above, was a couple of weeks later on 16th April and then 2211352 started its race career, like all CSLs claiming to be as a CS two weeks after that on 30th April 1972.

Important thing for somebody to own, no doubt ........will be interesting to see what it makes

P.S. I have to smile, at how everybody added the 25 on their Motorsport color cars, after the big win at Sebring in 75 :)
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Pete, as usual, thank you for the insight. I particularly enjoyed the Dutch history.

My entire family, which is growing by the day is entirely Dutch, sans my sister and I here in the states. One of my goals after going to F1 in Hockenheim is to go see F1 in Zandvoort. Ironically, I was at the last Hockenheim F1 race then the next year they started racing F1 in Holland at Zandvoort. The Dutch fans are so into F1 due to Verstappen's success that Zandvoort would be crazy to see in person, and the venue is amazing on the coast

Maybe this year!!! - Cheers
 
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WOW, who has one of these?
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Yes, this is my actual steering wheel. Credit @Markos with helping me find it. Pretty rare version of the iconic Momo Alpina CSL wheel. Here are some pictures of one on the Broadspeed car.

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I'd have to say, the Werks Olympic Rallye CSL is probably my second favorite BMW after the Werks Alpina 2002 car. Both amazing pieces of history.
 
Thank you everyone for the commentary and the history lesson...

My house is literally 1000ft from where Vasek Polak's dealership once stood on Pacific Coast Highway. It's surreal to realize this legendary car (VIN 2211343) was garaged right down the street.

I love that original aluminum air dam / lower valence on the Broadspeed vehicle. I assume the oval air vents draft air to the front brakes (Frank Fahey did that to the E28 M5 I once owned - he replaced the fog lights with air vents). I like that air dam so much, I'm going to try and fabricate one myself for my '70 2800 / E3 project.

The lezebre.eu website also gave me some evening homework.. I just bought a used copy of Jeremy Walton's "Unbeatable BMW 1959-1979" off Amazon for $20.
 
Imagine my disappointment today when I found a book shipment in my mailbox today.. I eagerly opened it planning to dive into Jeremy Walton's "Unbeatable BMW 1959-1979" and discovered a copy of Philip Porter's "Jaguar E-Type: The Definitive History" instead.

Either karma has a sense of irony or my father is laughing in his grave.. I never saw a man throw screwdrivers until my dad tried tuning the carbs on his '70 MG. Several months later, he cursed like a sailor while chasing electrical gremlins in the MG's wiring harness. [Not exactly what a 13-year old needs to hear.. but during that f-bomb episode, I learned how to use a Fluke multimeter to perform continuity tests on cables...]
 
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Ah.. comfy chair reading finally arrived. I didn't realize that Jeremy Walton did a mid-90's update on his book.. that's 500+ pages.

The mailman gave me a look of exasperation when he handed over a 10lb package... Chapters 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18 have a pretty sweet summary of the E9 / CSL development, including the transition to racing in the US...
 
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