The comments about facilitating crime blah blah.., the comparing it to a firearm and calling the guy and bat criminals is, in my opinion, more than a stretch. It’s unfortunate.
But, it’s usually the guy yelling the loudest that is wrong.
Any comments on the legality of a repaired frame?
Look you can distill this to name calling if you wish
@restart, but get the facts straight. No names were called. The owner’s intention was never put into question. Rather, he was commended for his transparency and educated on the severity of his problem.
Obviously BaT isn’t intentionally attempting to sell illegal cars, but if the winning bid was from a US buyer it would indeed be the sale of illegal goods. I’m not suggesting that anyone call in the calvary but a duck is a duck. This is an established federal crime that has had action taken on it in the past at the state and federal level. There will be no crackdowns and I never suggested anything of the sort.
BaT sold 11K cars last year. That is 30 cars a day. They have staff in charge of validating vehicles and assessing viability, safety, and legality of sales. Somebody screwed up with this ad. Where I work, when you screw up you take accountabilty. BaT did so as well, and resolved the issue accordingly. Another impulsive BaT addict didn’t lose their shirt. I’m sure that internally, someone got a lecture on how VIN’s work.
FWIW - I’m not COVID fatigued. Last I checked I error on the side of posting facts whenever possible and amend incorrect statements when needed. This car is factually illegal to buy, import, and sell in the US. It is also illegal to sell illegal goods and services. Nothing I said is outrageous or incorrect, despite any one member’s opinion on the severity.
I’m not trying to play eagle scout. My CSI had the chassis VIN hacked off and the only remaining VIN was the WA state import tag. I didn’t buy it from an established online auction, and I didn’t try to cross international borders with it. I registered it, parted it, and crushed the remaining 400lbs of steel. I also noted in the registry that the VIN is missing but the car was crushed.
Regarding the legal nonsense, If I haven’t said it enough times, I am referring to US laws. If you read my BaT comments I suggested that the owner sell locally. I would much rather play internet lawyer before a transaction is finalized versus after. If we had a new member join showing us his new BaT purchase with mismatched VIN’s I’m sure that many would be clamoring for BaT to issue a full refund. One might ask how that would play out in small claims court if the high volume online auction house knew the VIN’s didn’t match.
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