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Beautiful Malaga ‘74 Coupe on BaT
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FWIW, I imported a NK sedan from Canada in 2023. Because it had been registered in the US before it was titled in Canada (I had documents to prove it) Customs Agents at the border crossing waived the 2.5% duty fee. I paid nothing at the border.
But that was then.
When it comes to the BAT coupe discussed in this thread, unless I’m miss reading it, the seller has committed to paying all transport & doc fees, including the 25% tariff if applicable, for the wining bidder. So bid with confidence boys.
But that was then.
When it comes to the BAT coupe discussed in this thread, unless I’m miss reading it, the seller has committed to paying all transport & doc fees, including the 25% tariff if applicable, for the wining bidder. So bid with confidence boys.
Interesting. Let's speculate. Tariffs kick in for classics this week, they add 22.5% to the cost of European classic imports, which is about 600M$ worth of cars per year in the article (assuming into US value). The US classic market is 2.5B$ per year, let's say one half are European, so about 1.2B$ European classics traded are unaffected because they are already here, but if 600M$ see their price increase by 22.5% that should raise the overall prices of European cars already here by 0.6/(0.6+1.2) * 22.5% = 7.5%.
There you have it, your president just increased the value of your car by 7.5% without you having to even wash the damn car!
Will it go that high? No, what will happen is that half of the buyers will ask the sellers to provide a bogus bill of sale for a lower price to offset the tariff, so my prediction is that our cars will increase in value by just 3.75%.
Now, how about the cost of spare parts? Who cares, my E9 never breaks.
There you have it, your president just increased the value of your car by 7.5% without you having to even wash the damn car!
Will it go that high? No, what will happen is that half of the buyers will ask the sellers to provide a bogus bill of sale for a lower price to offset the tariff, so my prediction is that our cars will increase in value by just 3.75%.
Now, how about the cost of spare parts? Who cares, my E9 never breaks.
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bubukitty
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Is it just me or at the start of the driving video when the driver floors the coupe, there seems to be a fair amount of smoke from the exhaust, and it looks bluish to me. Like oil is getting past the rings. Also, the compression numbers seem too high. I had an engine issue very recently. Great compression but the leak down in one cylinder was 50% of the others and I was using a lot of oil and smoke coming out the pipes.
it is your perception, me thinks it is not blue smoke, IMHO it is the result of a not completely hot engine and a too rich mixture, it only lasts the first seconds of the kick, then it dissapears; in that very moment too much fuel, little air
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After doing some research on the matter, overall it does seem very "cloudy" to say the least on tariffs on vintage classic cars imported after Wed. This article from Car and Classic seems to be the best so far to try and clarify what most of us thinking of buying a classic E9 or E3 from overseas and how it would affect us (the vintage car community in generlal). Although it seems to lean towards "all" vehicles at the moment. I have a feeling this may eventually be clarified and only be placed on new vehicles. That is just my opinion.
The article also pictured a BMW 2002 and even a Coupe, so I thought that was cool.
Regarding some of the comments made on this thread "not being political" I wholeheartedly disagree. Disparaging our current President and his staff is absolutely political and offensive to more than half the country. If I said stuff like that of the former President and the tables were turned, I would have my comment deleted if I didn't edit the post which has happened in the past. It can't be one sided. I have thick skin and if you want a discussion in private, fine. But I don't feel it is appropriate on here as this has been addressed many times. Especially coming from a moderator and another member both of whom I admire.
Enjoy the article...
Trump’s Automotive Tariffs and their impact on Classic & Collectable Cars - Car & Classic Magazine
Donald Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all imported cars as of 2nd April 2025. What will tariffs mean for classic and collectable cars?www.carandclassic.com
very curious:
Classic Cars: Collateral Damage?
If confirmed, this policy could have far-reaching consequences for the European classic car sector.First, the U.S. remains one of the largest buyers of European classic cars. In 2023 alone, the U.S. imported over €600 million worth of classic and collector vehicles from Europe.
A 25% tariff on top of purchase and shipping costs would sharply increase the overall expense for U.S. buyers. For example, consider a buyer in California importing a restored 1971 BMW 3.0 CS from Germany for €80,000.
With the new tariffs, they would face an additional €20,000 in import duties—before even factoring in transport, insurance, and registration.
For many mid-range collectors, that premium will simply be too high.
I flew to Vancouver Sunday morning, bought a car and crossed at Blaine Monday at 11:00. My transporter will pick up today (Tuesday). The line at Blaine was hours long to pay import duties. CBP knew exactly why so many people had arrived. Virtually every parking spot was taken for car inspections.
Pictures of the car?
Oh my- I think that is off topic??
I bought a 2006 Matrix RSX ! That's the one with the Yamaha engine that revs to 8400 rpm with a 6 speed. The fun starts at 6000 + rpm when the power output goes to 100hp per liter. Everyone needs a rice rocket!!!! The engine screams....
"Toyota's higher-performance 2ZZ-GE engine. Displacing 1,796 cc (1.796 L; 109.6 cu in), it produced 180 hp (134 kW) and 130 lb⋅ft (176 N⋅m) – a then-rare 100 horsepower-per-liter. While its 11.5:1 compression ratio was a large factor in its performance, the engine could change to a second cam profile at higher RPM through Toyota's VVTL-i and was designed for operation up to 8500 RPM. "
"The 2ZZ-GE remains as one of the highest output per liter and the highest revving mass production engines ever made. It has won the International Engine of the Year category for 1.4 to 1.8-liter engines in 2002 in recognition of its incredible power output"
I bought a 2006 Matrix RSX ! That's the one with the Yamaha engine that revs to 8400 rpm with a 6 speed. The fun starts at 6000 + rpm when the power output goes to 100hp per liter. Everyone needs a rice rocket!!!! The engine screams....
"Toyota's higher-performance 2ZZ-GE engine. Displacing 1,796 cc (1.796 L; 109.6 cu in), it produced 180 hp (134 kW) and 130 lb⋅ft (176 N⋅m) – a then-rare 100 horsepower-per-liter. While its 11.5:1 compression ratio was a large factor in its performance, the engine could change to a second cam profile at higher RPM through Toyota's VVTL-i and was designed for operation up to 8500 RPM. "
"The 2ZZ-GE remains as one of the highest output per liter and the highest revving mass production engines ever made. It has won the International Engine of the Year category for 1.4 to 1.8-liter engines in 2002 in recognition of its incredible power output"
I am sorry to hear. I thought you were a fan of torque.
Pittraider18
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XRS?! Those things are really fun! One of those great Slow-Car-Fast kind of cars! Good purchase.
I have 4 cars- turbo, high compression high reving, torque monster and a Toyota Tacoma with 4 cylinders and a camper shell.
A bit of everything
The other new car is Wendy's, she just got the new Macan Electric to match up with her 911 carrera s.
We love to drive.
Because this car was sold in the U.S. when new, that box is checked on the forms and there will be no duty to import this car.
Would probably help to have an emissions sticker for a ‘74.
Would probably help to have an emissions sticker for a ‘74.
I also thought the same when I bought my 964 in Toronto two years ago, but was not the case. This was a documented US-purchased car, exported by an owner to Canada and owned for 15+ years there, then reimported by me. I paid the US import duty in advance using a broker, who prepared the paperwork for the transporter. The broker said nothing is ever certain:
"When doing a formal entry using a broker the HS Tariff Classification code that is needed to be used to exempt the duty is 9801.00.10 specifically states within 3 years. If you were to cross the border with the vehicle and do your own personal import directly with US Customs then they may exempt the duty for you as yes it does state on their website as duty free for returning US vehicle however it would still be up to the determination of the Customs Officer at the time if they would exempt it or not. I’ve had a Ferrari that went back to the USA within the 3 years of it being imported to Canada and the Officer that the driver got when it crossed refused the entry until the duty was paid so even the 3 years is up to the discretion of the Customs Officer sadly."
yep, same here, but without the emotion of the officer´s decision, you are taxed, yes or yes
life is much better at your end, you might skip the tax, we dont
Chris - The last update to the Harmonized Tariff Schedule for the United States was made on March 14. This means it does not take into account the March 26 "adjustment" to the tariffs applicable to motor vehicles and motor vehicle parts. In short, we don't have the rules that might apply to the importation of this particular car.
The simplest way to implement the proposed changes is to retain the pre-existing exemption that you describe, but it is dangerous to assume we know how these changes will be implemented. The Administration may apply the new rules to all motor vehicles imported into the US after March 26. Unlikely, but possible.
The car sold for 150K Euros. I hope the new owner gets to know about the forum.
As to the tariff portion of this thread, the seller took a gamble and won here. By offering to cover any new tariff that may be imposed, the seller reassured potential buyers.
And, as Arde noted here, the new tariffs retain the present law exemption for cars manufactured more than 25 years ago. https://e9coupe.com/forum/threads/the-impact-of-tariffs-on-coupe-owners.47719/post-419046
And, as Arde noted here, the new tariffs retain the present law exemption for cars manufactured more than 25 years ago. https://e9coupe.com/forum/threads/the-impact-of-tariffs-on-coupe-owners.47719/post-419046
Feelin the pain…. My customers are having to pay up…
My latest shipment of auto parts have just been been assessed the 25% tariff.
To this we add 10.75% sales tax. 3% brokerage. 10% shipping. 3% currency conversion.
And now the US dollar has crapped out to 1.09 to the dollar up from 1.03 in January
Over 50% taxes and fees on a part shipped in from Germany.
Accordingly I am closing Don Lawrence BMW and now will operate as Don Lawrence German Modern Collectible Art. As art is not subject to the new tariffs it will be a new successful business for me. Anyone needs to buy some “Art” - let me know.
My latest shipment of auto parts have just been been assessed the 25% tariff.
To this we add 10.75% sales tax. 3% brokerage. 10% shipping. 3% currency conversion.
And now the US dollar has crapped out to 1.09 to the dollar up from 1.03 in January
Over 50% taxes and fees on a part shipped in from Germany.
Accordingly I am closing Don Lawrence BMW and now will operate as Don Lawrence German Modern Collectible Art. As art is not subject to the new tariffs it will be a new successful business for me. Anyone needs to buy some “Art” - let me know.
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so all we need to do is to create a wrap for cars that resembles an Art Car ... import it and sell it as art - car value 5k, art value 100k