Carl Nelson lowered springs?

[mark99]

I have a question about using these
How does it affect the camber? How much and is it an issue?
Do they cause any greater tire to fender interference? I have the Coupe King Alpina like wheels
Thanks

 

[adawil2002]

It's recommended to get the fixed negative camber plates with those springs. I have older CN front springs, installed in 2012 and ran them without camber plates until 2016 with no issues. I was running stock 14" wheels and changed to 16" BBS RSs then had to roll my fenders between 10-2 o'clock.

 

[deQuincey]

i am using cn lowered springs wo camber plates
i did a comprehensive thread on the topic back then, and i recall i attached the meassurementsdid by the alignment machine
all images were those of photobutcher

 

[Markos]

I have a question about using these
How does it affect the camber? How much and is it an issue?
Do they cause any greater tire to fender interference? I have the Coupe King Alpina like wheels
Thanks

I presume that you are asking because lowering a car with independent suspension creates negative camber. Negative camber plates only add to that, but help with fender clearance. If you keep your factory wheels there is no reason why you would need camber plates given that lowering the car is no different than cycling the suspension. If you are running wider wheels or a lower offset, then the camber plates can help.

As far as I know the coupe king wheels are 7” up front which means they are probably ET11. That is the factory offset on 7Jx14 CSL Alpina wheels, so I see no reason why you would need camber plates even with your lowering springs. There are performance considerations for negative camber but unless you are on the track it doesn’t seem like a priority.

The only other wildcard I can think of is the tire profile with an extra 2” of wheel (16” vs 14”). It is possible that you could have more interference on the fender due to a more squared off tire. I have 205’s up from on 16’s ET11 and they clear without issue.

 

[bmwmadman]

I run the CN set up - springs and camber plates. While camber plates are recommended for a 16in wheel on a coupe - there are variables such as specific tire fitment, tire manufacture and individual car etc. I have heard stories about 1 fender requiring to be rolled while the other side not. If your installing everything all at once, its less of a potential headache to just buy everything and install together as a package.
Gary

 

[dj_efk]

I agree with buying everything in one go. I mixed CN springs up-front with others at the rear, a mistake in hindsight. Replace everything (springs, shocks, camber plates, possibly all the rubber bushes depending on the condition of what's there) all in one go.

 

[Tony.dreamer]

Call Carl Nelson and tell him what you have already and he would sell you the rest of what you need.
I ordered Coupe king Alpina 16” staggered set , 7 front , 8 back . You can find them on Coupe king web site . They are ET11. That is the best offset recomended for these staggered wheels. Carl Nelson recommend that you always roll the fenders (front and back). Markos comments are dead on!
The Recomemded tire sizes for thier 16” Alpina reproduction are also listed on coupe king web site

 

[Tony.dreamer]

Here is picture of mine which look great but I have to use sand bags for the weight since nothing is installed in the Engine bay yet?