Concours level CSL restored by Korman, for sale by Canepa...

Markos said:
Well I would certainly take it! Even with the foam Petri, wrong tools, funny engine insulation, odd color airbox, the trunk liner, leather shift knob, and the dashboard wood in need of restoration. ;)
Click to expand...

Dash wood looks OK in this photo. Perhaps that's just a shadow in the earlier photo.

Edit: At a minimum, there is an obvious horizontal scratch/crack to the left of the speaker grille. Right in the passenger's line of sight. Didn't see that until Autokunst posted a blow-up of this photo, but now that I've seen it, I can't un-see it!

47743ab0be0b1_low_res_1972-bmw-3-0-csl.jpg
 
Last edited:
jmackro said:
Dash wood looks OK in this photo. Perhaps that's just a shadow in the earlier photo.

47743ab0be0b1_low_res_1972-bmw-3-0-csl.jpg
Click to expand...
Looks like the mark is still there (same place and shape) but is very faint in this image compared to the darkening in the earlier one. It shows up in another image as well (faint, not dark). Something is going on with the filter/processing.
 
jmackro said:
Dash wood looks OK in this photo. Perhaps that's just a shadow in the earlier photo
Click to expand...

Don’t get me wrong I’m not complaining. However, if one is going to throw around “Concours Level” terminology...

It appears to me that the dash has a 24” crack in the veneer that rubs from the cowl to the bend. Also a patch with worn clear coat that throws things off from all viewing angles.

Again - gorgeous car - despite the black petri hex screws! :D ;)

D9B1A3C5-EC78-46CC-8AE2-3BEF2F93A367.jpeg
DA72CBEB-3D9A-4A6A-A454-274DA4743751.jpeg
F7B24783-925B-40B7-875D-D252FE47FDFA.jpeg
 
Wow - that's full of inspiration. To my eye, that blob on the wood appears to be a section that no longer has finish. In one view it looks dark, like a stain. But in two other views it is still there, but looks lighter. I suspect it is worn, and reflects/absorbs the light differently than the rest of the wood. Which is to say, the wood likely needs restoration (imho). Not nit-picking - this car is gorgeous. But that's my observation.
477406012757b_low_res_1972-bmw-3-0-csl.jpg
477445c8fb41f_low_res_1972-bmw-3-0-csl.jpg
47743ab0be0b1_low_res_1972-bmw-3-0-csl.jpg


EDIT: seems I was late to this observation as I was enlarging the images...
 
Markos said:
Picky minds think alike! When I first joined this site I was going to weld sheetmetal to my floor. Now I’m pinpointing a “white discoloration” (seinfeld reference) on the dashboard of gorgeous CSL! :D
Click to expand...
Cansa? Is it cansa?
 
Stevehose said:
If I'm paying top dollar for concours, and this will be top dollar, I'd like the real petri etc!
Click to expand...

Agree that Canepa’s top range prices normally reflect the quality of their cars. I would like to imagine that such ‘top’ companies who deal with such a large range of cars, have ‘type specialists’ who advise on what the particular brand/ model on the original condition of those models, atleast to a large percentage.
Up till now, I was always smitten by the Canepa cars, now I have to wonder...... hope it’s not our resident specialist!
In this case it obviously doesn’t apply. The most critical and obvious aspect is the exterior, namely the front and rear chrome bumpers missing (Fibre glass rear would be in combination with front Csl spoiler) and the black paint on the front and back valance which was exclusively for the 169 Carb Csl’s and the later BATs but in combination with the above mentioned fibreglsss spoilers/ rear bumper.
Other obvious factors like the wrong color carpet which is on the parcel shelf too. Wrong type of rims, steering wheel, missing headrests, missing side Scheel seat covers and surely plenty minor stuff to add to the list apart from what has already been pointed out.
 
My guess is 240-270K$ range with Canepa price tag.
 
Keshav said:
Agree that Canepa’s top range prices normally reflect the quality of their cars. I would like to imagine that such ‘top’ companies who deal with such a large range of cars, have ‘type specialists’ who advise on what the particular brand/ model on the original condition of those models, atleast to a large percentage.
Up till now, I was always smitten by the Canepa cars, now I have to wonder...... hope it’s not our resident specialist!
Click to expand...
The description on their web page clearly states that the restoration was done by Korman. Canepa just did some final polishing.
Which of course begs the question: Is Canepa just a middleman in this case? It seems hard to imagine why they would let their name be connected with a car that has flaws.
 
Bmachine said:
It seems hard to imagine why they would let their name be connected with a car that has flaws.
Click to expand...
If they are even aware of the flaws, which I doubt or else they would have rectified them. Which is what I meant with ‘type specialists’.
We have a few of them in Germany too and even BMW Classic calls on them for advise.
 
Keshav said:
If they are even aware of the flaws, which I doubt or else they would have rectified them. Which is what I meant with ‘type specialists’.
We have a few of them in Germany too and even BMW Classic calls on them for advise.
Click to expand...
By "flaws" I was referring to the dashboard wood. The rest I would call inacuracies.
 
part of the write-up on the Canepa site said:
With an emphasis on period-correct finishes, the interior was the next major stage during the restoration. The wood dash was removed and completely refinished, the gauges were removed, cleaned and rebuilt to ensure perfect operation. The cloth Recaro seats were retrimmed by Scheel, using OEM cloth just like the BMW factory would have in '72. The rest of the interior was restored in a similar fashion, with all of the surfaces and finishes brought to concours-levels.
Click to expand...

What's hard to figure is the discrepancy between Canepa's description and what the photos show. Things like "wood dash was removed and completely refinished" and "finishes brought to concours-levels".

But I'm no expert on CSL's - I'll defer to others on what's right for CSL bumpers, carpet, underhood insulation, air filter color, etc.
 
Last edited:
This car is so mixed up I wouldn't know where to start- complete identity crisis (as pointed out by Keshav) with a mixed bag of "details" from different CSL versions blended into one incongruent package... that said, it's pretty.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top