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Successfully California titled my 1972 3.0CSi and immediately sent off for a birth certificate.

BMW archives show paintwork, Fjord Metallic, no upholstery documented, and special equipment sunroof.

What’s interesting (to me) is the email that accompanied the birth certificate:
Dear Mr. Krenzler,

Enclosed please find the birth certificate by BMW Group Classic for your classic BMW. We hope it is to your satisfaction.
One additional information: After production this car was added to the BMW vehicle pool and used internally (purpose unknown). After this it was sold as used car to Lichtenstein.
Wishing you a lot of driving pleasure.

Yours sincerely,
David Zimmermann


I can guess (and Google) what “used internally” could mean, but does anyone have direct knowledge of this? Pretty interesting to me.

Cheers,
Rich
 
ScottAndrews said:
Who did you contact to get the "Brith Certificate"?
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Started with: https://www.bmwgroup-classic.com to fill out:


Uploaded picture of reg/title for ownership proof and they emailed me back saying they received my inquiry. Rep then sent inquiry over to another group to send me an invoice (it is no longer free - now costs €150). Few days later they emailed a digital copy.

Pretty easy process. I was curious about the car and plan to keep it, so I forked over the cash. Now the plan starts for restoration…
 
You get VIN, production date, title transfer title date (e.g. Hoffman NY or European dealer), color. You were fortunate they had the Internal use note. No options, nada.
 
RichenFamous said:
Successfully California titled my 1972 3.0CSi and immediately sent off for a birth certificate.

BMW archives show paintwork, Fjord Metallic, no upholstery documented, and special equipment sunroof.

What’s interesting (to me) is the email that accompanied the birth certificate:
Dear Mr. Krenzler,

Enclosed please find the birth certificate by BMW Group Classic for your classic BMW. We hope it is to your satisfaction.
One additional information: After production this car was added to the BMW vehicle pool and used internally (purpose unknown). After this it was sold as used car to Lichtenstein.
Wishing you a lot of driving pleasure.

Yours sincerely,
David Zimmermann


I can guess (and Google) what “used internally” could mean, but does anyone have direct knowledge of this? Pretty interesting to me.

Cheers,
Rich
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"Used internally" means it was a company car owned by BMW Group for its first step into life, then sold off as used car to an outside party.
 
HB Chris said:
You get VIN, production date, title transfer title date (e.g. Hoffman NY or European dealer), color. You were fortunate they had the Internal use note. No options, nada.
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Seems expensive for info that is otherwise available from the car itself (other than the dealer, which is generally also known)
 
Internal use means either staff car, sales demonstrator or press car, which is kind of cool.

I've an early 1800ti and my certificate notes it was a private delivery to Canberra in Australia circa 1964. Did some more digging and it looks like was a West German embassy car.
 
I looked at this. They wanted to charge me £150 for a certificate which shows the information which my registration document shows, and harvest my data for marketing. I don't need to know it's history. I own it and others have owned it before me: it's really no big deal.
 
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Agree it is expensive for what you get, especially since they used to email this info for free (not too long ago). I did it to see if any “other info” would be included as well as the novelty item to hang in my garage.
 
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