DIY - Heater unit rebuild

My pay back to the forum; here's my approach to rebuilding the heater box from my E9. Not sure how this compares to e3, but let me know and I can possibly merge.

I'll likely chop it in roughly three pieces; removal, disassembly, repair and rebuild. I haven't installed it yet myself, so i can't do any pics of that :) .
I will add sections in the coming days, depending on how boring my meetings in the office will be....

Cost & time estimation: About 450 euro and 30 hours.

- Re-cored heat exchanger: 231 euro
- Re-zinced parts (done with other parts, so I just take a part of it: ) 30 euro's
- 1 square meter of closed cell EPDM foam 5 mm thick with glue backing: 60 euro's
- blacking fluids to recoat the black steel spring wires of the front air vents: 25 euro for a set, but used only 25% of it: 6 euro.
- a few rivets, rattle can black paint, solvent; glue for textile part inside the air duct: say 10 euro's in total.

time consumption: 30 hours; this includes disassembly, making it all fresh again, drop & pick up of the parts of for fresh zinc and recore, an re-assembly. Oh, and a bunch of photo's in between to insure myself for premature Alzheimer...

This will get you:
1. peace of mind that your core doesn't leak. Especially helpful if you don't want to disassemble half of your dash after finishing that 10 years restoration.
2. A nice and shiny center stack, with air vents that give max air volume output (sometimes blocked by sagging textile inside the air ducts)
3. smooth running fan with no noise from 45 year of gunk /leaves inside etc

Disassembly:
Getting the heater box out from the dash is difficult. It's quite some work, as it requires you to remove some parts surrounding it to give access to the screws holding it place.
If i remember well, you need to get the glovebox out, and the panel under the steering column. Besides that, you need to remove the center console sides. I don't think you can leave any one of those installed. Also you need to disconnect the water hoses from inside the engine compartment.

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Unscrew bolts from the side of the front panel, they should have 2 left, 2 on right side; see the ratchet position.
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The front panel is now hanging by the control wires and its electrical connector. You can see also the rectangular air duct now comes out (bottom right of photo). My heater unit only had 3 screws instead of the 4 needed...

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Next step is detaching the unit itself from the firewall. The unit has on either side a large yellow zinced bracket with 4 nuts. (see green lines in image below) Detach those 4 nuts.
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You now have it loose.

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Great DYI Erik!

You have mentioned about moisture protection of the core painted 2K grey epoxy. Was it to cover grey, rough surface with shiny paint or specific paint with some chemistry against moisture?

What chemistry you have been using for blackening the nuts/bolts?

Is the E9 fan balanced? I know for newer models it was so it might be good to mark its position on the shaft and mount it in the same place (angle, distance etc) to avoid additional noise or just to take the motor with the plactic fan blades for balancing. It will be worth its money for sure (I know how frustrating it can be in the car with noisy fan running).
 
Great DYI Erik!

You have mentioned about moisture protection of the core painted 2K grey epoxy. Was it to cover grey, rough surface with shiny paint or specific paint with some chemistry against moisture?

What chemistry you have been using for blackening the nuts/bolts?

Is the E9 fan balanced? I know for newer models it was so it might be good to mark its position on the shaft and mount it in the same place (angle, distance etc) to avoid additional noise or just to take the motor with the plactic fan blades for balancing. It will be worth its money for sure (I know how frustrating it can be in the car with noisy fan running).
Hey @Krzystof,

I used the paint to give it some protection but being all soldered brass and coper it should be fairly unreactive by itself.

I used some dyi kit from a car restoration supplies company, it's basically a blackening lquid for the xolor, and then an oil that does the rust prevention. I don't think it is very rust resistant.

The squirrel cage fan is balanced with small c shaped clips over the fins, I got pics in my build thread.
 
Hi Erik. I realize this thread is 3 years old but I am trying to solve a problem on mine so I was re-reading this DIY.

My issue is that the hot/cold lever only moves from all the way left (all blue) to just past half way to the right (partially red). It can't go past that point for some reason.

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Unfortunately my system is fully installed so I have limited access to the cable adjustments. But when I compare the positions of the flaps to your 2 pictures above, mine are very similar.

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Do you by any chance remember if those pics show fully open and fully closed? If so, it would indicate that even though my hot/cold lever only opens partially, at least the flaps in the heater box open and close fully. I then need to look elsewhere for the lever adjustment...
 
I'm watching this great thread as my heater core is on the work bench for refurb. The picture below is the full warm position of my equipment. The bracket may be a bit more perpendicular to the plastic contour line - compared to Eriks left picture.
In full cold position mine is same as Eriks right side picture.
 

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Very interesting @coupesport . Thank you for that. So it looks like my full warm position is not really fully warm. I can't really see what keeps it from opening all the way…
As mine is on the workbench I'll look at it more closely and if comment back if I see any possible restrictions.
As you can see there is a straight rod making a 2nd mechanical connection.
 
Looking at this picture

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and comparing it to mine

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it looks like I have a bent bowden cable that should be straight. That can't be good...

Oh man. Last thing I want to do is to take that heater control panel off again!
 
Sure enough, that was the problem. That cable is supposed to be nice and straight. This bend (or break in the case of another member) happens because people move that slider to the right with too much speed and force and it bends the cable. This will prevent the slider from going all the way to the hot position.

Now is a good time to straighten it if necessary and make sure the slider works smoothly. It's a lot harder to do after it is installed

Sorry to add to your thread, @eriknetherlands but I thought it was relevant...
 
Great to see you've managed to solve it.

Me thinks that possibly the cable (rod?) has had to much friction on the other side, then indeed when pushed, the only way out was to kink the rod.
Perhaps debris or old, hardened grease inside the sleeve?
It could also be that e.g. the flap got stuck in some way.

So you might want to inspect the level of friction down the line, literally, to prevent it from happening again.
 
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