Early ALPINA gauges?

[Wes]

What do we think about these gauges? They are from a 1971 CSL.
The oral history is that they are ALPINA. I'm not yet convinced but there seem to be some identical sets shown over on the 2002 FAQ forum, which are attributed to ALPINA.
They don't have the little slot (to sit in the parcels shelf) that the 2002 ones seem to have but everything else is the same.
Thoughts?

 

[Rouge]

Look's like this one

 

[rsporsche]

photos i have seen from earlier ALPINA cars didn't have the gauges at the speaker grille. there might also be a difference between who built the early Alpina cars.

 

[bavbob]

I don't believe they were specific to ALPINA cars or maybe they were but became available or sold separately as well. This was in my 73Euro at time of purchase. Holes drilled into my grab bar dammit. My car also had "upside down" ALPINA shocks.

 

[Stevehose]

The white pointers are nice - don't see that too often

 

[merdad]

These pictures I took of Carey Lida’s Alpina many years ago when he still owned it.

 

[Golf070CSL]

Dear all,
these gauges are VDO aftermarket items which were available in Germany at the time. That are no specific Alpina parts. There was an Alpina console for the 2002 and this black plate for three gauges in place of the loudspeaker grill for the E9.

 

[Rouge]

Bien sûr ce sont des manomètres standard de VDO et ils ressemblent beaucoup a ceux montés en série sur les Golf GTI serie 1.
Je ne sais pas si les aiguilles sont junes rouge ou blanches.
On les devine sur les photos de l'article paru dans Sport Auto sur l'essai d'une 3.0 CS Alpina par Paul Frère .
On les voit plus clairement dans un article de Auto Motor Sport, un magazine Allemand qui relate un essai de la même auto.
La même auto est appelée 3.0 CS Alpina ou CSL en Allemand...
Il est précisé que 4 jauges supplémentaires sont installées dont une température de l'huile de pont que l'on devine en dessous a gauche du bloc de ventilation de la console centrale.
Malgré l'essai assez intensif que réalise Paul Frère durant 3000 km et souvent sur Autoroute à des vitesse prohibées maintenant, le journaliste qui a également été un très bon pilote de course en particulier aux 24h du Mans remarque que l'huile moteur ne dépasse guère les 95°c quand celle du pont monte elle vers 150°c !!!!

 

[Rouge]

Sorry, in english:
Of course these are standard VDO pressure gauges and they look very similar to the ones fitted as standard on the Golf GTI serie 1.
I don't know whether the needles are yellow-red or white.
You can see them in the photos in the Sport Auto article on Paul Frère's test drive of an Alpina 3.0 CS.
You can see them more clearly in an article in Auto Motor Sport, a German magazine, which reports on a test drive of the same car.
The same car is called 3.0 CS Alpina or CSL in German...
It is specified that 4 additional gauges are installed, including an axle oil temperature gauge which can be seen below and to the left of the center console ventilation unit.
Despite Paul Frère's fairly intensive testing over 3,000 km, often on freeways at speeds now prohibited, the journalist, who was also a very good racing driver, particularly at the Le Mans 24 hours, notes that the engine oil barely exceeds 95°c, while the axle oil rises to around 150°c !!!!

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

[Nachtycoupe]

Regardless if whether those gauges are Alpina or not (look like period correct VDO's to me), nut sure were Alpina would improve on a standard VDO. Anyways, I'm no expert on that, but what I do like is the pictures of the gauges in the CSL, the tri-cluster where the speaker grill usually is. I know a lot of people have done this but I think much better use of space, especially since most people have hidden bluetooth speakers, head unit etc. now. Something to think about for the future.