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Seeking Advice:1974 BMW 3.0CS E9 VIN #4310157 “Matching Numbers”
UPDATE: SOLD
1974 BMW 3.0CS E9 VIN #4310157 “Matching Numbers”
Stonington, Connecticut USA 06378
Members:
Years ago I was a member of the BMW CS Register and in the BMW CCA CT Valley Club. I return to get your wisdom and benefit from your experience. I have decided to part with my 1974 BMW 3.0 CS E9 (375 made) which I have owned since 1989 with 92,943 miles. Manual 4 speed. No sunroof.
This vehicle was purchased new in July 1974 by Mrs. J. Miles of New York City and sold in October 1975 to Mr. S. Williams of Southbury, Connecticut for $12,500 with 7400 miles. Mr. Williams who was born in 1912 maintain and cared for the car for the next 14 years until I purchased it on February 6, 1989 with 78,106 miles for $10,000. I believe I have all the maintenance records.
The basic story is that after a lap around the track at Lime Rock Park with BMW CCA CT Valley drivers school, in 1990, almost 26 years ago I realized the driver’s door was misaligned and brought it to the body shop only to learn that behind the beautiful exterior skin of the Karmann built bodywas lurking cancer. For the next four years we undertook a major renovation of the entire chassis. I proceeded to use approximately $5000 I had in a secret (from my wife) bank account and more to purchase and install OEM parts from Germany, shipped in crates from Germany through Illuminessence Group Inc. of Santa Monica California. Many parts were also purchased through Maximillian Importing Company in Baltimore Maryland, including, right inner and outer front fender, left fender parts, right rear quarter, floor panels, emblems, seals, side mirrors, fender covers, the inner, middle, and outer rocker panels and more. My friend and body shop owner George, removed all the rust and the car was painted in the 1972 MB 280 SLnavy blue. Gorgeous. Headliner has no stains or tears. Not more than a ½ gal of plastic on the entire car. You will, of course, see surface rust in some of the pictures of the exposed interior, but there is NO ROT/RUST in the critical areas including the shock towers. It has a brand new windshield. The only remaining metal work is the attachment of the two outer rocker panels and spare tire holder bracket.
Then life took over - wife, children, house, the full catastrophe- and the E9 sat in storage for the next 22 years. I have not started it since. Manually turned it over a few times. When I retired the E9 the motor was smooth, solid and pulled strong, it did not burn, leak or smoke oil. The 4 speed manual transmission and clutch shifted well and the driveline was tight, even the Weber carburetors worked fine. In 1988 the air conditioner was cold. Only modification was the installation of an expensive Yamaha YCT-605 tuner, ADS amp and 6 speakers. Amazingly, I think I have almost all the parts (except the spare tire?) including many, many new ones with BMW’s part numbers still on them. The car will need a fresh coat of paint, some surface rust and paint separation on the bottom of the doors and a patch of clear coat damage on the hood. gas and brake lines, front seat leather, exhaust work and tires I imagine. The project is more than I am willing to undertake at this stage in my life. It has Clean and clear Connecticut title. It is available for viewing. I will assist with shipping arrangements.
Here is a link to a large photo file: BMW 3.0 cs
All of the photographs were taken this weekend 3/26/16 in Stonington Borough CT.
I welcome inspection by any forum members in the New England area. I am interested in your opinions on where I should market it and what I should sell it for. If at auction/Ebay what is my starting price and my reserve? On Craigslist what is my ask? What is it worth?Do not hesitate to ask any questions you may have.
I appreciate that this car has not been run in 27 years and that it needs to be put back together. If I were in the market for one, for the very first time, I know I would be tempted to pick one up that was running and think that I could handle the restoration down the line. However, knowing what I know now, except in very rare circumstances, under the Karmann skin are all the problems I discovered, and fixed with OEM parts when it was still possible to buy them and economically feasible to purchase them.
Thank you in advance.
Hal
[email protected]
UPDATE: SOLD
1974 BMW 3.0CS E9 VIN #4310157 “Matching Numbers”
Stonington, Connecticut USA 06378
Members:
Years ago I was a member of the BMW CS Register and in the BMW CCA CT Valley Club. I return to get your wisdom and benefit from your experience. I have decided to part with my 1974 BMW 3.0 CS E9 (375 made) which I have owned since 1989 with 92,943 miles. Manual 4 speed. No sunroof.
This vehicle was purchased new in July 1974 by Mrs. J. Miles of New York City and sold in October 1975 to Mr. S. Williams of Southbury, Connecticut for $12,500 with 7400 miles. Mr. Williams who was born in 1912 maintain and cared for the car for the next 14 years until I purchased it on February 6, 1989 with 78,106 miles for $10,000. I believe I have all the maintenance records.
The basic story is that after a lap around the track at Lime Rock Park with BMW CCA CT Valley drivers school, in 1990, almost 26 years ago I realized the driver’s door was misaligned and brought it to the body shop only to learn that behind the beautiful exterior skin of the Karmann built bodywas lurking cancer. For the next four years we undertook a major renovation of the entire chassis. I proceeded to use approximately $5000 I had in a secret (from my wife) bank account and more to purchase and install OEM parts from Germany, shipped in crates from Germany through Illuminessence Group Inc. of Santa Monica California. Many parts were also purchased through Maximillian Importing Company in Baltimore Maryland, including, right inner and outer front fender, left fender parts, right rear quarter, floor panels, emblems, seals, side mirrors, fender covers, the inner, middle, and outer rocker panels and more. My friend and body shop owner George, removed all the rust and the car was painted in the 1972 MB 280 SLnavy blue. Gorgeous. Headliner has no stains or tears. Not more than a ½ gal of plastic on the entire car. You will, of course, see surface rust in some of the pictures of the exposed interior, but there is NO ROT/RUST in the critical areas including the shock towers. It has a brand new windshield. The only remaining metal work is the attachment of the two outer rocker panels and spare tire holder bracket.
Then life took over - wife, children, house, the full catastrophe- and the E9 sat in storage for the next 22 years. I have not started it since. Manually turned it over a few times. When I retired the E9 the motor was smooth, solid and pulled strong, it did not burn, leak or smoke oil. The 4 speed manual transmission and clutch shifted well and the driveline was tight, even the Weber carburetors worked fine. In 1988 the air conditioner was cold. Only modification was the installation of an expensive Yamaha YCT-605 tuner, ADS amp and 6 speakers. Amazingly, I think I have almost all the parts (except the spare tire?) including many, many new ones with BMW’s part numbers still on them. The car will need a fresh coat of paint, some surface rust and paint separation on the bottom of the doors and a patch of clear coat damage on the hood. gas and brake lines, front seat leather, exhaust work and tires I imagine. The project is more than I am willing to undertake at this stage in my life. It has Clean and clear Connecticut title. It is available for viewing. I will assist with shipping arrangements.
Here is a link to a large photo file: BMW 3.0 cs
All of the photographs were taken this weekend 3/26/16 in Stonington Borough CT.
I welcome inspection by any forum members in the New England area. I am interested in your opinions on where I should market it and what I should sell it for. If at auction/Ebay what is my starting price and my reserve? On Craigslist what is my ask? What is it worth?Do not hesitate to ask any questions you may have.
I appreciate that this car has not been run in 27 years and that it needs to be put back together. If I were in the market for one, for the very first time, I know I would be tempted to pick one up that was running and think that I could handle the restoration down the line. However, knowing what I know now, except in very rare circumstances, under the Karmann skin are all the problems I discovered, and fixed with OEM parts when it was still possible to buy them and economically feasible to purchase them.
Thank you in advance.
Hal
[email protected]
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