HELP: Manual pedal box question

[nobrakese28]

After spending all day under, above , and in my CS I have the auto transmission out as well as the pedal box. The starter probably took the longest to remove.

I was originally planning in attempting to add the clutch pedal, but the auto box did not have "clutch spring pivot point". So I pulled the entire pedal box.

When I placed the pedal boxes next to each other I noticed the manual pedal box did nit have the same mating points for the steering column.....

I come to realize the manual pedal box I have is out of a car with telescoping steering.

I found a few boxes on ebay that will work. On a non-telescoping steering car, what does the clutch spring assembly pivot on?

Can some one send me some photos of there clutch pedal? I would really appreciate it!

My options:

1) Buy correct box.

2) See if Ben at 2002AD will trade me boxes

3) Some how make my auto box work by mixing and matching, the pivot point is nothing more than a folded piece of sheet metal welded in place.

Thanks

 

[nobrakese28]

Please see photos below.

 

[nobrakese28]

So after some research, it turns out I have a 74+ pedal box. This makes sense as the donor car was a 74.

What do the early cars use to return the clutch pedal?

-Marco

 

[nobrakese28]

PROBLEM SOLVED:

So simply replace the manual pedals (brake/clutch) into the original pedal box of your car. The old style boxes use the exact spring the brake pedal uses, the hole is even there to hang the spring.

The only issue you may encounter is the welded lug on the new style pedal may hit the pedal boxes, this lug is now useless. Its purpose is for the later style return spring mechanism.

So I will likely cut a small relief in the pedal box to clear it.

Moral of the story is you can use a 74+ pedal box if you are willing to gut it and move the parts to your early style box.

 

[E911]

well done!

 

[dbower]

I have a used early pedal box (clutch) that will be going on de Bay soon. $75 here if you want it.

Don

 

[Ohmess]

Hi Marko -- Have you studied the posts in the Technical Info section on this topic? I am in the middle of this conversion, and it seems you are taking a somewhat more difficult path than is necessary.

Here is what Carl says on pedals:

You will need to change out the pedals. This is a simple bolt in. Use a pair of pedals from a Bavaria. They go right in. Be certain to install the return springs. ** 1974 and later clutch pedal has a top bracket that will not fit into the early pedal box. The early pedals will fit all pedal boxes. Do not try to use 528i pedals, the bushing split does not line up (trust me again).**

 

[Peter Coomaraswamy]

Chris, if I remember correctly you just need the 2 pedals and bushings, as mentioned below the return spring hole is already there- this should be the easiest part of the conversion

I did a 1974 auto to5-speed conversion if that helps.

Good luck!

 

[Ohmess]

Thanks Peter -- I have them; got them from Bavman with bushings and return spring. I painted them and added new rubber pedal covers.

My work was slowed a little by a trip to Road Atlanta this weekend to meet up with the e24 guys at Sharkfest.

 

[nobrakese28]

Hi guys. I definetly took the hard path, I orignally planned on just swapping the pedals, but upon studying the new pedal set I noticed there is a welded "reaction point" on the manual pedals that my pedals didnt have.

I later realized that is only used for the later style clutch pedals, the late style uses a much more substantial spring return mechanism. Then early pedals just use a spring exactly like the brake pedal.

Since I planned in powder coating originally this isn't a huge deal. But please only remove the pedal box if you really need to, as it is very involved.

The new parts are already at the powder coater. It wasn't a bad time for me to break down the brake system, as the front right caliper is partially stuck. So my wife is dropping it off at the rebuilded for me this afternoon, you can't beata 3hr turn around time and $110 for both calipers.

So the moral of the story is cars with telescoping steering wheels have different pedal boxes!