hood insulation source

i worked quite a bit on a sound deadeing project for the engine compartment of a coach design

sound will come as a whole from a certain source when you consider it (i.e. the engine of a car), but in origin there are high and low frequencies

when you try to solve the problem, you have to separate the solution to handle those high and low frequencies

it is a common case that high frequencies will excite the sheet metal in their eigen-frequencies (that depend of the material, geometry, and structure (reinforcements, welded parts, ...))

meanwhile low frequencies will travel mainly by air finding all the holes, and openings to make their way out from the hood, or onto the interior of the car

to make a long story short, if your intention is to run a more comfortable car for you and for the people walking in the street, .....you should buy a new car !!:twisted:, no, seriously, you have to perform two different solutions, first of all, if you identify vibrations in the hood sheet metal, you will have to add an autoadhesive load pad (it is commonly used in the thin sheet metal walls of washing machines ), this will make the eigen-frequencies go higher and subsequently your mechanical components will not excite it

for the low frequencies an open cell foam will be the best, this will expose a multiple surface (consider all the surface of the hollow cavities that the cells are presenting) to the upcoming sound wave, the foam will transform the energy of the sound wave into vibration and finally heat (negligible for the engine fucntion)

the problem of that open cell foam design is that it will be soon blocked by dust and dirt, so in many cases the finishing of this insulators will include a plastic film or aluminium film, those two will improve the later but will reduce sound deadening performance

modern cars use a design of a special material that combines heat and pressure together with a epoxi to join vegetal fibres together, but you need a press to produce those parts, so it is out of reach for us

hope this helps

regards
 
Keeping the subject simple--

Over nearly 4 decades of E-9 ownership--on only one occasion I used the mylar faced underhood insulataion--once was enough for me. IMHO the only benefit of that material is you can wipe its surface free of stains for a time and thats all I can say as to it's qualities--however, it does look out of place on these cars.

Other than for that brief period--in relation to total time--BLUMAX has been fitted with the original type of material. My recent fitment(s) came from Mesa Performance here locally for both my E-3 and E-9--or it may be available through those few Dealerships--eerrr Retail Centers--that still have a parts guy willing and qualified to help find vintage parts. Present day material appears to be somewhat improved perhaps more resiliant than the original factory material--time will tell. My last installation was about five years ago

As has been previously stated--ANY INSTALLATION that attaches to a large area of a painted surface--it's essential to have the surface clean and free of old adhesive--I've had good results using Mineral spirits and a plastic 3-M scraper--works well but patience along with a beer or two will get it done. If you happen to have the hood off it's a lot easier.

word of caution--the adhesive backing doesn't really need any extra adhesive--as some have suggested--be very careful when installing the large center piece with hood on as the center bar will be your obstacle to an easy installation--peel only the notched end to expose the adhesive backing and carefully align to the underhood before sliding the remaining insulation past the bar--and only then peel the rest of the paper backing to expose the adhesive--I found that scoring the paper backing to allow careful step by step placement will help--as doing otherwise will assure a problem to correct fitment--if the adhesive contacts the clean surface it will bond and object to relocation--so carefully do your alignment the first time.
 
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i have just received the w&n insulation pads

very well cutted to shape, and very simple material

the reason for buying was I saw an old 2000CS, with the original material in place, and it was, if not the same, very, very similar, so enough for me

regards
 
Noticed that my old underhood insulation has an impression from contact with the air filter cover. I have seen this with other coupes in Pix on the forum. This obviously implies that the insulation is in pressure contact with the cover when the hood is down, while driving, etc. Is this right? Does it matter? Any ideas?
 
I think contact with the foam is normal, same thing happens on the 2002. It does not affect my hood in any way.
 
I think contact with the foam is normal, same thing happens on the 2002. It does not affect my hood in any way.

+1

dont worry, as no high heat is in that metalic part, you dont even have to worry about possible deterioration of the insulation, in the other hand the air filter cover wont be affected at all

provided your hood fits (gap and offset) within the engine hole to the laterals, front and rear, everything is ok
 
Airbox touching underhood pad--

Two reasons:
1) with original Zenith Carbs--there are slight adjustments--by tinkering with the base of the airbox it can be made to adapt the mounting surfaces to carbs that will clear it of any contact with U'hood pad.

2) When fitted with Weber carbs--they are slightly taller--but again--by fiddling with the airbox adjustment to carb tops you can almost eliminate any contact. I have Weber 38/38's and have virtually eliminated contact except for very small indent at the front carb.

PS--don't forget the use of rubber rings that sit on top of carbs--they work on either Zenith or Webers to help form seal between airbox and carb top(s)
 
this is the final aspect of the just istalled parts from w&n

first clean, second activator, third assembly

the small ones, no problem, the big central one, start from the lower zone, pass the bar, and then go little by little to the top
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W&N is listed as a provider of hood insulation, but I can't find them on the web. Anyone know their contact information? Thanks Walter
 
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