how does this thing come out? (small part in rear window mechanism)

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In the rear window lifting mechanism, plastic sliding elements are attached to the steel plate that holds the glass.

The plastic sliding elements are mounted on a steel cilinder of about 14 mm round (half inch) and held by 2 C-clips. When removeing the C-clips, you can see a plastic surface, inside the steel cilinder It appears to be the socket half of a ball joint.
The other half of the ball joint is clinched into the steel plate holding the glass.

Now one of the ball joints is almost seized, the other one rotates nicely in 3 D.

In the picture you see a partly dismantled mechanism, the screwdriver points to the unwilling ball joint.

I tried some pulingforce, but it didn't move. I did not want to try excesive force, as 40+ year old plastic can de quite brittle.

Does anyone have an idea how to seperate the steel cilinder from the plastic and/or the plastic from the ball joint?

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Erik.
 

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Yes, but how did 'Mr Marvel' get it out?

The well detailled description actually made me tackle it. So well documented it made easy, so I had a go at it.

All went well, except for the little plastic bugger. DeQuincey seems to have gripped it with pinchers, mine however has only a flat top surface. No chance to get it out as I can't grip it.

So I resorted to a light push and pull, but allas no budge. Lifting it by wedging it up with a screw driver only led me to bite my tongue fearing the plastic might crack....
I know plastics can swell by using an incorrect greeas; PO might have used it, effectively 'welding' it into place.

So, my mistery for today; how did DeQuincey get it out?
 
the refered pic from the chapter DeQuincey's user manual "how to treat your lady wel"

"how to treat your lady wel"

It's a bit of how I see it; if I don't do it right, she's likely to give up on me....
And here we have someone setting the standard. If E9's would have a female heart, I bet many of them would end their current relationship, take a oneway ticket to Spain (?) and be coveted by those hands....


but anyway, here's the picture from the DeQuincey thread
 

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hi erik, thank you for those overwhelming undeserved compliments, apologies for my late reply, i was away for business

as i can see it from your pictures, there are two ways, IMHO

first, leave it there, and clean as much as you can by spraying some penetrant oil and clean with a cloth while rotating the part

second, as you have removed the retaining clip it must come off, the question is that you must exert force evenly in the two sides of the metallic piece so you will keep it always parallel to the base plate, this way the plastic piece will not be molested by uneven strenghts, so, place two flat screwdrivers on both sides of the metallic part and try to do as smoothly as possible, i feel there is no trick

hope it helps

BTW, i am not looking forward to an old lady gathering in my courtyard, so please do not give ideas to them,...;-)
 
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