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I'm getting near retirement age and the wife doesn't like to fly so I'm looking at getting a motor home. An older small class C, 22-23ft that will also be my break room at the shop. Maybe a nap or two who knows.

I've been looking at early 2000's to 2015 or so with a focus on build quality. I prefer the one piece noise cone over the cab and fiberglass exterior. For reference, a Born Free Build For Two would be my first choice.

Anyone have any insight?

Dan
 
I don't know anything about motorhomes but have a few thoughts to prepare you!

Tread lightly with the engines of the era:
1) EPA 2007 (MY 2008 trucks) introduction drove DPF and higher rates of EGR - these engines were produced during a 3-year transition period and are different from the prior and post. Also, higher pressure fuel systems were introduced that have been troublesome.

2) EPA 2010 (MY 2011 trucks) introduction drove the addition of the SCR systems (DEF) but generally lowered the EGR rates as the SCR helped lower NOx levels and less exhaust gas recirculation was needed. I would avoid anything until MY 2013+ as there were lots of "teething" pains with the early SCR engines. To this date, DEF issues remain as one of the highest quality issues with the modern diesel.

3) Stay away from any Ford PowerStroke diesel 6.0L and the 6.4L. Both are absolutely in terms of reliability horrible the first being IMHO top-5 worst engines ever produced.

4) Stay away from any Navistar / "International" MaxForce engines. In this class of RV there maybe the MaxForce 7 engine which is a derivative of the 6.4L above. This engine also competes for the top-5 worst engine ever produced.

5) Just like buying any used car, you better perform an in person due diligence and possibly a PPI. Buy the highest quality / brand RV by reputation.
  • Having visited a few motorhome building facilities in IN. The manufacturing operations are kind of scary, with seasonal workers, non-standard work practices, etc. Everything is so custom that motorhomes are basically made on the fly with minimum documentation and you are absolutely at the mercy of the foreman and crew that is "building your RV".
  • Wiring harnesses can be scary if they are not documented and/or modified post-production.
  • Additional A/C units and swamp coolers maybe installed incorrectly if they are post-production.
  • The DC/AC inverters and the extra battery need to be carefully looked over, especially if aftermarket.


Finally and my additional opinions:

1) Class C's are based on Cab-Chassis trucks / full frame and most of them are Ford based.
2) Definitely get a diesel for the torque and fuel economy.
3) Obviously, you like the E9 for its looks, engineering and vehicle dynamics. If I were buying an RV, and I am not, I would seriously look at a Mercedes DRW Sprinter based RV. Because I know that at least the powertrain/chassis/suspension/steering/ergonomics would match my taste.
4) I also know the Cummins 6.7L is generally considered a good engine and it is a "sister" of the Cummins "ISB" which is used in medium-duty trucks. So serviceability should be better.

GOOD LUCK! :)
 
If I was thinking of buying a motor home I would read from where CamayroZ says I, have a few thoughts to prepare you!" three times, the third time moving my lips. And then I would google "Renting and RV."
 
Dan, realize I possess none, nada, of your skills and experience. When you add up all the receipts from day one for a motor home after six months or a year I suspect you would be as shocked as I expect to be when I add up all the receipts for my '72 Bavaria. I am about to start today and will get back to you with a preliminary number and then a final number. When I have recovered from the stroke.

Amtrak covers a lot of territory. We took the Chicago to Seattle train in a compartment with a shower. Look for deals. Our travel agent at the time found us a fare that was almost half of the advertised fare.
 
Two years ago, I imported a Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 -based camper from the US to Poland for a friend.
It's a brilliant toy, especially the 4x4 version.

Sprinter Winnebago Revel:


We bought a slightly damaged one at a Copart auction for a very decent price.
We bought it at auction for just under $60,000. It was a 2018/19 model.





 
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The Class C rigs I've been looking at are based on the Ford E350 cutaway with the 6.8L V10 gas motor. Not my first choice in motors but they do okay. They have a reputation of blowing spark plugs out of the heads because of a design flaw but there's fixes that I've done in the past.

A short Class C with a V10 motor isn't my concern, it's more about how they're put together and handle the continuous earthquake while cruising down the highway.

A good friend repairs RVs so I'll probably buy a salvage. I can't help it.
 
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