need a starter

[chope97]

my 73 auto needs a new starter which one should i get. I have heard about the Bosch sr14(sp) small more torque, but the wiring is different?

 

[TomHom]

I have this available

1.5kW at 300€ plus shipping from Germany
Thomas

 

[e9Leveque]

The smaller starter you mention is quite nice. After you have struggled to remove the initial one because of the difficulty of getting to one of the bolts you’ll appreciate the smaller size of that Bosch. The wiring is fairly straightforward to figure out

 

[bavbob]

Yes but there is an issue with the SR 441x, Chris knows, I never remember which wire should not be used or constant power will be sent to the resistor and coil.

 

[rsporsche]

there is also the SR 444x (the one for the 12 cylinder)

here is the 441x

and here is the 444x - its 233 bucks on amazon

 

[sfdon]

And with Amazon you return the coreand you get 23 bucks back


The wiring is simple- take the black red wire from the 12 o’clock position and combine it with the black wire at the 6 o’clock position. Replace the spade connector with a lug connector and you are done.
Never just take the black red wire off and leave it hanging.

 

[Pittraider18]

And with Amazon you return the coreand you get 23 bucks back


The wiring is simple- take the black red wire from the 12 o’clock position and combine it with the black wire at the 6 o’clock position. Replace the spade connector with a lug connector and you are done.
Never just take the black red wire off and leave it hanging.

I've heard to combine the wires or to just remove the black/red wire completely from the system. Are these both viable solutions?

 

[chope97]

Thank you I will go for it

 

[Jim Stone]

Chope97, as an option I have a spare used Bosch E9 starter. It has tested sat on a test stand. If interested I live an hour or so south of you in southern Md.
Thanks, Jim

 

[chope97]

Thanks Jim being a parts hoarder and 40 year Bavaria owner I went to my parts shed (1o3) and there was a new ssr14x sitting on the shelf waiting for me

 

[chope97]

Here are some pictures on how my 71 is wired to the sr441 done many years ago, seems like the red wire is just taped up. This car was switched from an auto to 5 speed many years ago before I got it

 

[DaveBeddows]

Yes but there is an issue with the SR 441x, Chris knows, I never remember which wire should not be used or constant power will be sent to the resistor and coil.

The stock wiring provides a ballast resistor bypass during the starting process. The theory is that the electrical current pull from the battery during starting will drop the ignition voltage so bypassing the ballast resister will generate a stronger spark to help during engine turnover. If the non-stock starter does not have a contact for this purpose I could see an issue if this circuit was connected to the wrong node.

 

[sfdon]

Here are some pictures on how my 71 is wired to the sr441 done many years ago, seems like the red wire is just taped up. This car was switched from an auto to 5 speed many years ago before I got it

"Taping up" a non fused wire that goes directly to your coil and next to your ignition switch and letting it hang in your engine bay is a great idea...

For my shop at least.

Honey!~ pack your bag, I got a big new job. We are going to Hawaii for a vacation!!!

 

[chope97]

Another project to add to the list this forum is car saving