Original equipment tyres

Dougal Cawley

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Does anyone have any period pictures of E9 in show rooms or on the production line where we can see the tread patterns of the tyres.

I kind of think that the Michelin XWX was predominently the tyre, but it might not have been on all the models. Alpina were fitting the CN36 on its 2002 cars, so it could be the CN36 was on the more sporting cars. It could be that the E9 fitted different tyres when it was supplied to different countries, this was often the case back in those days.

Pirelli do now make the perfect 195/70VR14 Cinturato CN36 for the E9 which is great news because i don't think Michelin have made the XWX this century, and to my knowledge there hasn't been a good 195/70R14 since then until now.

This is our current page for E9 BMW


If there is anything you have that would make this page better please post it. I am interested in what was original equipment, data about tyre pressures would be great, old articles in magazines that mention tyres are good too.
 
I kind of think that the Michelin XWX was predominently the tyre, but it might not have been on all the model
This here is predominantly a BMW E9/ E3 forum for which BMW chose to go with Michelin XWX tyres! Any amount of twisting and bending won’t change that fact! If you want a E9 show room pic with a Cinturato, you are going to have to Photo Shop that one ;)
 
Hello Dougal and Keshav,
here is a paicture of an early CSL, probably a carburettor car and Jochen Neerpasch's company car. The picture is from BMW. The car is parked, where today the BMW World buildding is. It is on Pirelli CN 36. No phto shop. This picture biased me to have the Pirelli on my CSL too.

Michael
 

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Hello Dougal and Keshav,
here is a paicture of an early CSL, probably a carburettor car and Jochen Neerpasch's company car. The picture is from BMW. The car is parked, where today the BMW World buildding is. It is on Pirelli CN 36. No phto shop. This picture biased me to have the Pirelli on my CSL too.

Michael

Oh that is double cool.

So do you think that was OE?
 
right so the first of the E9 fitted CN36 and then they changed onto XWX. dont suppose you know when that change took place?

I dont suppose there is a picture of the page in the sales brochure about tyres that i could stick on my web site?
 
Look at technical data in the old brochures and owners manuals. At tires and wheels, you 'll find it. Somtimes Michelin XWX is quoted and somtimes just the size of the tire like 195/70 VR 14.
 
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XAS never had a speed index of more than H (210 kph). Thus in Germany XAS were not road legal on an E9, not even on a 2800cs. Maybe in the US that was different due to the 55 or 65 mph speed limit.
 
when the e9 was introduced in the USA, the speed limit was 70 mph, didn't change until 1973. but i'm sure you are correct as we didn't have the tire regulations that you did in Germany
 
Look at technical data in the old brochures and owners manuals. At tires and wheels, you 'll find it. Somtimes Michelin XWX is quoted and somtimes just the size of the tire like 195/70 VR 14.
Of the three csl supplements only one shows the Cinturato and the other 2 show the Michelins.
Brochures are just that and don’t reflect the final production details
 

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when the e9 was introduced in the USA, the speed limit was 70 mph, didn't change until 1973. but i'm sure you are correct as we didn't have the tire regulations that you did in Germany
In Germany the speed index of the tire has always to be faster than the car's top speed, plus a few percent for tail winds and downhill motorways. For snow tires with a lower speed index, a warning decal on the dashboard is required. Even for export BMW always fitted tires with the "German" speed index.
 
Of the three csl supplements only one shows the Cinturato and the other 2 show the Michelins.
Brochures are just that and don’t reflect the final production details
I meant the text section "Technische Daten" on the last page of the brochures. I am sure, you are having a selection of those, there are several editions. Gerhard from the German E9 forum, you know him, once posted this page and it names Michelin XWX, but not in all editions.
The photo on your first "Betriebsanleitung" on the left is a copy from the photograph I posted above, and shows the Pirelli. M-AH 1076 was one of the first CSL, a pre-series company car. M-AH 1071 was even before that and had no stripe.
 
Hello Dougal and Keshav,
here is a paicture of an early CSL, probably a carburettor car and Jochen Neerpasch's company car. The picture is from BMW. The car is parked, where today the BMW World buildding is. It is on Pirelli CN 36. No phto shop. This picture biased me to have the Pirelli on my CSL too.

Michael

oh Michael, thank you very much
your photo is proof of what we have been saying during all these years,

meanwhile big mouth still repeats …xwx, xwx, xwx,…
will never shut up, maybe that can photoshop a parallel reality in which is right
 
I think that the tires should be mentioned in the homologation documents. Every car, also the plain simple ones in Europe +about 50 other countries need such documentation in order to allow it on the road.

Didn't we somewhere have those doc's on file for the csl's?
Mind you, that still doesn't answer what tyres other e9's had.
 
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