Seat belt retrofit

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Early style seat belts...who designed these things?

At any rate, I noticed Coupe King sells a retrofit kit:

http://www.coupeking.com/product/e9-cs-lap-belts-retractors/


But I think I see the same thing her a bit cheaper?

https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/seat...t-retractable-lap-belts/m.products/24/view/58

Anyone have luck with either one?

Is the hole available there for the part that goes above the rocker? Seen here:

e9-cs-lap-belts-retractors
 

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i have the coupeking set in my car ... it fits and works great for just a lap belt. if you go the other route, you want the 7" retractor, the 4" will cause the seatbelt to sit too low. i also think that the 12" other end is about right - i will check when i get home

i have been thinking about trying to incorporate the 635 setup in the coupe while i have the interior out of the car. i may try enlarging the hole in front of the rear seat with the cutoff wheel so the retractor sits into the body rather than being a wall wart, and seeing how that fits. then it will be about getting the pivot point right at the bottom front of the rear window.
 
seat belt up

I have / had the early style
I looked at the options and went with the set made by Alaattin Erkanli
They have an extension that hangs down from the original roof attachment
Bim Bill has them in his car so I was able to look at them
if you are interested, PM me and I will send you his email
 
I don't know whether any of the earlier cars have the attachment 'nut' and structure in place, but in the '74's, the seat belts are 3 point, and the shoulder belt comes from the upper outside corner of the rear seat arm rest. The centrifugal retracter fits up there, hidden behind the arm rest. There is a 'loop' at the front of the rear seat quarter panel held on by a bolt that goes into a nut just below the window through which the 'shoulder' belt passes with the male attachment on it. The end of the lap belt is in the normal position behind the seat at the outside sill.

This system is convenient to use, and works very well. IF I were doing a restoration on an older car that I was going to drive much, I'd probably try to integrate the required components for this system.
 
I have a 1972, the shoulder belt hangs from the ceiling, when you are not using it, you are supposed to fold it up and stow in along the ceiling
The 'fix' I mentioned attaches to this same location
 
Me too, but it is in the perfect decapitation position, so mine stays folded.

mark99 said:
I have a 1972, the shoulder belt hangs from the ceiling, when you are not using it, you are supposed to fold it up and stow in along the ceiling
The 'fix' I mentioned attaches to this same location
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I think the 71 would have the threaded location on the ceiling, I had a friend that had a 2800 CS and it had the same thing, maybe it was covered over with a new headliner?

The 'fix' I decided to get, Bim Bill and Stan have this, an extension hangs down from there to position the top of the shoulder belt at a reasonable location

Here is a photo I found looking on the net, turns out it is Stan's

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And for posterity, the upper belt mount was added to US/NA coupes with 2240143 and 2250071 so early in the US 72 model year in January 1972.
 
Chris, would the no ceiling mount apply to a Euro car?
The car I remember is:

The BMW 2800 CS VIN 2204650 was manufactured on July 20th, 1970, planned for Italy, but finally delivered on October 06th, 1970 to the BMW dealer Wogatzke in Kaiserslautern.
 
The Orange Parts books show it only on the US coupes so I don't believe it would be there. Many have looked and not found them, they are easy to feel right in front of the grab handle.
 
rsporsche said:
i have the coupeking set in my car ... it fits and works great for just a lap belt. if you go the other route, you want the 7" retractor, the 4" will cause the seatbelt to sit too low. i also think that the 12" other end is about right - i will check when i get home

i have been thinking about trying to incorporate the 635 setup in the coupe while i have the interior out of the car. i may try enlarging the hole in front of the rear seat with the cutoff wheel so the retractor sits into the body rather than being a wall wart, and seeing how that fits. then it will be about getting the pivot point right at the bottom front of the rear window.
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I'm sure you are aware, but this has been done, and pics exist somewhere on this forum. It was done on a rather infamous coupe but I can't recall who built it. About six months back I found an illustrative picture of a great upper seatbelt mount where the shoulder strap pivots. It looked like a .25" steel clevis (d-ring) mount, wrapped in French stitched leather. it protruded from the top of the rear interior panel rather than the wood, like most seem to. Those that have installed race harnesses know that the placement of the upper pivot point is an important factor when trying to save your spine in a crash.

This is a well respected company in the off-road community. They sell seat belt tabs and clevis mounts. They are in the business of selling heavy gauge laser cut steel fabrication parts:

http://www.bluetorchfab.com/collections/brackets-tabs/general-brackets-tabs
 
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