so what do you think a perfect 40cm petri is worth ... and do you think an unused one exists

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i'm sure this is truly a hypothetical question, as i do not have one to sell. i do have an extremely nice one (thank you Steve), and i will repeat ... its NOT for sale.

so, imagine that everything is correct, perfect and unmolested ... for all practical purposes, NOS - correct hub, horn button, horn ring, perfect hub cover, perfect screws ... no oxidation on the metal plating, no scratches ... perfect rubber cover. everything that the ego_bgo auctions aren't (his has wrong horn button, wrong hub cover, no horn ring and a custom hub) ... all for the price of 1200 bucks plus shipping. For comparison, a true CSL petri is currently worth 2000 to 3500 bucks, depending on condition ... and i'm sure there are a couple of CSL owners who can verify that.

i was glancing thru ebay the other day and did a search for petri steering wheels, and i was astounded at the prices for perfect petri wheels for porsche 356's and VW's ... most between 2000 and 5000 bucks. so it made me think ... if those wheels are worth that much ... what would a CS petri be worth now and what would it be worth in the future. so i put it to you, what would a non-CSL perfect petri be worth? and if one existed, who would be standing in line?
 
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Remember this NOS 40cm Petri (with its pristine original box) that sold on eBay a few years back. Can’t remember the exact selling price, but think it was between $1500-$2000. Think the value for mint BMW Petris have now gone up appreciably.
 
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i just do not understand the commotion about those wheels. Sorry , imho, i don't even like them. :eek:
they look light , fragile on a CS dashboard ???
 
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Remember this NOS 40cm Petri (with its pristine original box) that sold on eBay a few years back. Can’t remember the exact selling price, but think it was between $1,500 - $2,000. Think the value for mint BMW Petris have now gone up appreciably.

I do remember that. I would think somewhere in the $1,600 to $2,000 would still be fair. I wouldn’t expect a bidding war over one. That is the thing about expensive steering wheels. When you price them accordingly based on rarity and condition, the market is pretty narrow.

The thing to remember, especially if you are doing a $100K plus car. That is the one item that is literally in your hands and directly in front of your face while you are driving your machine. It is a constant reminder of the attention to detail that you put into your car. :D
 
I think much depend on current demand from buyers side, not every day/week or month it is the same. So auction with bidding might be not the best option.
I think ca. 1500-1600$ for very nice one & 2000-2200 for perfect NOS.
 
They're actually quite heavy and sturdy, much more than a nice late 60's wood Personal I had on mine once.

i just do not understand the commotion about those wheels. Sorry , imho, i don't even like them. :eek:
they look light , fragile on a CS dashboard ???
 
They're actually quite heavy and sturdy, much more than a nice late 60's wood Personal I had on mine once.
i just do not understand the commotion about those wheels. Sorry , imho, i don't even like them. :eek:
they look light , fragile on a CS dashboard ???
Petri 38 with standard 3-ring hub weight ca. 2,4-2,5kg
for camparison Alpina 4-spoke 38, which have leather upholstery and thicker grip weight ca 2,2kg
 
i had not remembered the NOS petri from a few years ago. but the NOS picture might help solve one of our Petri questions ... phillips screwheads or hex inset heads ... what is shown in that picture Steve?

i agree that this condition Petri is not an 'auction' piece, i bought my first one on ebay, and it was extremely nice, now lives (i believe it still does) in Canada ... i then obtained Steve's beautiful 40cm, i sold another 38cm that i purchased from another forum member, rather than reconditioning it and more recently i got Keshav's gorgeous Alpina leather covered 38cm. i think the fact that these wheels came on CSL's and were an option on CSi's ... they are the most 'original' option and a very desirable wheel for me. i like the way they look and feel.

value, this is an interesting discussion, a little higher than i expected, but i'm not surprised ... especially when you compare it to what ego_bgo is selling on ebay. i don't think there will be any significant price correction (downward) over the long haul. so it will be interesting to revisit this thread in a few years.
 
Keshav and I went back and forth on the hex vs phillips screws and with input from his expert friend there determined that they are both correct, perhaps phillips being earlier and hex later, or hex replaced when removing (and easilly ruining) the phillips. Or whatever was in the parts bin during assembly. I prefer phillips as hex seems out of place on anything except a race car, but they are way easier to remove.
 
They're actually quite heavy and sturdy, much more than a nice late 60's wood Personal I had on mine once.

Petri wheels (not just the CS/CSL sport wheels) are made from steel, with a steel hub. Nardi and Momo wheels have aluminum spokes with an aluminum hub. There are still me exceptions, particularly the collapsible momo and nardi hubs which are a combination of aluminum and steel.

Petri wheels are far from fragile.
 
as i enlarge the NOS picture ... those look like hex screws. for me, perhaps i'm too anal retentive of an architect, but with the phillips heads - i either want them to be set all in exactly the same direction (all of the X rotated on 45 degrees ... or to have them all rotated 45 degrees from the radial angle). the latter is what i would really want.
 
Keshav and I went back and forth on the hex vs phillips screws and with input from his expert friend there determined that they are both correct, perhaps phillips being earlier and hex later, or hex replaced when removing (and easilly ruining) the phillips. Or whatever was in the parts bin during assembly. I prefer phillips as hex seems out of place on anything except a race car, but they are way easier to remove.

The petri with the original box... I too noticed the hex which irritated me somewhat. That the Phillips look correct and the hex don’t, is a given, for most of us.
The correct Phillips (problem is the size of the head) are practically ‘impossible’ to find, even here in Germany. This is surely why the hex were used as replacements, specially because ruining the Phillips is too easy. Even on a new looking wheel.
Steve with his amazing perseverance in all matters, kept the thinking straight on the search criteria.

I would assume that a NOS Petri has Phillips and not hex.
 
Guess I’m in the minority now:( I for one like the machined/industrial look of the allen hex screws. The recessed phillip screws reminds too much of wood fasteners.
 
Guess I’m in the minority now:( I for one like the machined/industrial look of the allen hex screws. The recessed phillip screws reminds too much of wood fasteners.

Like from the days when the kidney grille slats were manually fitted to the frames. Old school!
 
The petri with the original box... I too noticed the hex which irritated me somewhat. That the Phillips look correct and the hex don’t, is a given, for most of us.
The correct Phillips (problem is the size of the head) are practically ‘impossible’ to find, even here in Germany. This is surely why the hex were used as replacements, specially because ruining the Phillips is too easy. Even on a new looking wheel.
Steve with his amazing perseverance in all matters, kept the thinking straight on the search criteria.

I would assume that a NOS Petri has Phillips and not hex.

i agree, here, a major industrial region, it is very difficult to find them, both the flat top version and the drop shaped ones are extremely difficult to get, some harware shops may have them in dusty boxes without any reference, you might get a 1000 unit box of say M6x100 and another 500 unit box of M9x30 but nothing else, of course noone uses M9 today
 
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