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What kind of glue should i use to attach that annoying sun roof molding surround, 1 piece is felt and the other is aluminiam/felt I bought my dream/nightmare 73 3.0 ten weeks ago stripped to be painted and had the bright idea to try and have it together by V@V! what the hell was i thinkin'!!!!!Everything was removed glass,interior bumpers,trim, grills, lights and yes the sunroof!!! i'm not real sure how to put it back either(electric) Any or all advice would reduce that loud noise coming from head banging against a wall!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, CDM
 

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Best idea I have seen is to use a slow cure superglue gel and just do a small section at a time.

There was a good write-up on the 2002FAQ, but I haven't been able to find it so far.
 

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It is on the cscoupe.org site as well (http://www.cscoupe.org/tech/message058.html). It was originally posted in 2000. Here it goes:


Posted by Paul (at Maximillian) on February 29, 2000 at 13:40:45:

I have started posting tech tips for the 2002 message board and since I have spent a few dozen hours reassembling a CS recently - I can share some information about easily do-it-yourself replacement items. I spent a few hours last night installing sunroof felt gasketing. It was a bit tricky - but here are some tips that will help others:


1. Use Super glue GEL (not the runny thin stuff). BMW sells superglue as OE sunroof seal cement - and I have found it to work better than the 3M adhesive on this application.


2. You can install the front seal without removing the panel - but you'll have to open it and eventually tilt it later on to do the rear.


3. Start at one end and leave a bit (about 1") extra felt trailing toward the back of the car. Glue only about 2"-3" at a time. Hold firmly until it sets up and start on the next few inches.


4. Make sure that the extra material trailing inside the roof at the end is glued down also (underneath the roof line / behind the opening).


5. Allow to completely dry (24hrs.) before closing roof.


OK Now the rear seal. This seal glues to the moveable PANEL - NOT the roof of the car - so it's a bit trickier since there is very little room to work.


1. Pry leading edge of interior upholstered panel down (careful! Its NLA and distorts easily!!!)


2. There are only 4 or 5 clips holding it to the moveable metal panel. Once it's loose - SLIDE it back into the roof while the sunroof remains closed. (It's a bit tricky - but if you try to pull it straight down and out - it will get destroyed.) See how it travels and is held "captive" by the metal channel on each side.

3. the sides of the panel are held in a track on the roof via small rectangular sliders held in with two screws each. loosen the screws and remove these clamping bits. (They're NLA - so don't lose them!!!)


4. Now only the cables at the rear of the panel are holding everything together. Push up on the leading edge of the panel from inside the car while you "over-close" the roof. Have a towel handy to keep it from scratching the roof of the car.


5. You should now have the panel sticking out and overlapping the opening at a slight angle. This will allow more acces to the rear seal placement.


6. Affix the rear seal as the front one - work slowly. I find putting masking tape along the roof opening helps avoid drips of nasty glue on the paintwork. Use lots of towels to rest your elbows on too - you'd be amazed at how easily deformed these roofs are!


7. The rear seal is a bit tougher since it doesn't have any tim inside to help hold the shape. Just be patient and go slow.

8. Allow 24 hours drying time before reassembly. I ran a small (2-3mm) bead of CLEAR silicone adhesive along the bottom of the rear felt just to keep it sealed up.


Approximate work time: 3 hours +/-


Good Luck!
 
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Roger,
Thank you so much !!!!!!!!
Feb. 20 I bought my 73' coupe that was completely taken apart to paint,Glass, trim, interior, bumpers,grills, lights and yes sun roof I got about 400 hrs. in to it so far and counting! I'm trying to get it some what finished in time for V@V. Are you going?
Thanks again,Jeff


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Sunroof seals, how they meet/join

To Roger: thanks for the bulletpoints. My new front and rear felt seals are far too long. Fine, but if I start with the front one, where do I cut the end? i.e. how far back on the opening of the roof should they go?
There is a clear change of roof panel shape, about 2" from the rear corners. That would make a natural place to have the front seal ends. Cut the felt at 90 degrees, I suppose.

Then the rear felt, that I mount on the sun roof panel, which is out of the car. Do I cut the ends at 90 degrees, and hope that they meet nicely, or do I "tuck in" the ends as I seem to have read somewhere?
 

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Peder,

I haven't done this in decades but as I recall you need all of that extra material to fold over and be glued down to make sure it stays in place. There are not any straight cuts that you 'hope' meet exactly where they need to meet. Hope this helps.
 

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What kind of glue should i use to attach that annoying sun roof molding surround, 1 piece is felt and the other is aluminiam/felt I bought my dream/nightmare 73 3.0 ten weeks ago stripped to be painted and had the bright idea to try and have it together by V@V! what the hell was i thinkin'!!!!!Everything was removed glass,interior bumpers,trim, grills, lights and yes the sunroof!!! i'm not real sure how to put it back either(electric) Any or all advice would reduce that loud noise coming from head banging against a wall!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, CDM
That sounds familiar! I sold it disassembled, and it showed up next to me at V@V the next year all assembled.
 
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