Wanted, Radio Speaker for 2000 CS

[BritshIron]

I'm restoring the dashboard on a 1967 2-liter coupe, and need another radio speaker (NOS or modern replacement) or a recommendation as to who might rebuild a speaker with a damaged cone. See photo, speaker sitting on dash frame. Thank you. Robert, [email protected]

 

[CSL177]

You're really better off replacing it with a modern two-coil speaker. Plenty to choose from and inexpensive.

The other option is go to an amplifier/speaker shop and have it re-coned. A quick Google shows there are several in Hawaii.

 

[dave v. in nc]

I don't guess you know if it is the same spec as a later 3.0cs, i.e.?

 

[BritshIron]

Thank you, Russell. I had no idea we had shops on this island that re-coned old speakers. Maybe on Oahu, but the Big Island is pretty rural. I'll check.

The car has a period Blaupuntk radio, but I'm not sure that's it's original to the car. Push button AM/FM. Anyway, after 55 years, who knows!

I'm hoping for something that is just plug'n'play, and fits just like the original. I have not yet starting fitting the wooden dash, but as you know those speaker slats in the dash are super fragile, so I'm hoping for something that fits with plenty of clearance. A modern speaker would be fine, as long as it fits without putting pressure on the slats. Also, these speaker fasteners do assist in the overall anchoring of the dashboard.

Thanks again. Let me know if you stumble upon a good, modern candidate for a replacement speaker. Aloha, Robert

 

[BritshIron]

I should have checked the spec before posting the wanted ad. I will do so. I can't find the speaker on Real OEM Classic, and a web search pretty much turns up nothing. A number of companies claim to have modern replacements, but so far when I go to their web site, they say they're still studying applications, or aren't sure their product will fit.

It may be tomorrow, but I'll do a better job trying to get actual specifications. It's not a huge bit deal regarding the speaker, but installation of the dashboard is a big deal (windshield out operation) and once the dashboard is in, the speaker is buried. Thanks again. Picture of my 1600ti too! Aloha, Robert

 

[HB Chris]

Measure it, 4x6?

 

[HB Chris]

https://e9coupe.com/forum/threads/dash-speaker-info-photograph-request.9627/

 

[BritshIron]

That is really useful information. We are just getting over a tropical storm out here, so it will likely be tomorrow before I can get those measurements and specs. I figured this was going to be a scavenger hunt! Much aloha, Robert

 

[BritshIron]

Okay, getting dark here, but I took some lousy pictures of the front speaker, below. The mounting ears have fastener attachment holes that are roughly 17.5 CM apart lengthwise, on center. The ears are 10 CM, on center, in height. The total length of the speaker cone oval is 15 CM, and the height of the oval is 9 CM. The depth of the speaker is between 4.5 and 5 CM. Note the information stamped on the back. Thank you, Russell! Robert

 

[BritshIron]

Thank you, Russell. I had no idea we had shops on this island that re-coned old speakers. Maybe on Oahu, but the Big Island is pretty rural. I'll check.

The car has a period Blaupuntk radio, but I'm not sure that's it's original to the car. Push button AM/FM. Anyway, after 55 years, who knows!

I'm hoping for something that is just plug'n'play, and fits just like the original. I have not yet starting fitting the wooden dash, but as you know those speaker slats in the dash are super fragile, so I'm hoping for something that fits with plenty of clearance. A modern speaker would be fine, as long as it fits without putting pressure on the slats. Also, these speaker fasteners do assist in the overall anchoring of the dashboard.

Thanks again. Let me know if you stumble upon a good, modern candidate for a replacement speaker. Aloha, Robert

 

[BritshIron]

Here's an update on my earlier post. I also discovered that there's a rear factory speaker, so more details on that later! My true need is for the front speaker that mounts behind the dashboard (but, towards the front of the car). When the dashboard is installed (likely a windshield out job) the speaker is effectively buried. Also, the speaker fasteners seem to have a modest role in keeping the dashboard stable. This arrangement on the 2000 series coupe is unlike the 2800 coupes, in that the slats are an integral part of the dashboard face, as opposed to being a separate slatted cover.

See photos below. The length of the mounting ear holes, on center, is 17.5 CM. The height of the mounting ears, on center, is 10 CM. The total length, out to out, of the speaker cone is 15 CM including case surround, and the total height of the oval is 9 CM. The depth of this speaker is between 4.5 and 5 CM, which may be critical since the dado'd speaker slats in the wooden dash are so fragile. I would not want to put any additional pressure on the dashboard slats by trying to mount a speaker that's too deep.

Thanks very much for your help. Robert

 

[CSL177]

Yeah, the original speakers are an odd shape... if you don't find a place on the island here's a shop in SoCal that recones.

Home

www.speakerrepairpros.com

Dimension being roughly 4" x 7" modifying a modern unit to fit the mounting holes is another option.

Good luck, interested to see the results of your efforts.

 

[HB Chris]

And new speakers have multiple mounting points.

 

[BritshIron]

Thanks, all. Now I understand that there is a rear deck speaker too. On my car, I'm not sure there's a factory opening on the "hat tray" or rear bulkhead, but I'll study. I have good information (ie, actual speaker) regarding the rear speaker. Robert

 

[HB Chris]

I think the rear speaker was mounted on the hat tray, there is no opening from the factory.

 

[BritshIron]

Here’s a speaker I have that came from a 2-liter coupe enthusiast, and is clearly labeled “rear speaker.” Not sure I’ll install but it’s nice to have the documentation! Robert

 

[BritshIron]

Chris, late last year I bought a bunch (small container load) of 2-liter coupe and 02 parts from a former enthusiast in Colorado who was settling his estate. I never realized how much fun owning so many parts could be, nor how much can be learned from just inspecting good parts! My car below too. I took the BHS Alpina 20-spoke re-pops off, and put OEM NK 14 " wheels with beauty rings, hubcaps, and new Pirellis. FYI. Robert

 

[HB Chris]

Robert, You have a lovely CS, is it Schwarz (very rare) or Atlantik?

 

[BritshIron]

Aloha, Chris. This car went from the Karmann factory to Belgium as its first movement when new. Sometime thereafter, it went to Connecticut, then New Jersey, and spent the last 13 years in a residential garage in Raleigh, NC. Somewhere along the line, someone resprayed the car Schwartz. It’s a good enough respray to make me think it was done in Europe. However, it was not a total strip-down respray. The inside door and cabin metal, rear bulkhead and other such normally covered or difficult-to-paint surfaces are still the original color, Derby! James Laray says it’s the only Derby NK car he knows of in North America.

So, putting back to Derby is not #1 on my “to do” list, but maybe my son will do it someday. My contribution in the owner preference department is to equip the car with air conditioning!

Thanks, Chris, for your kind comments. Mahalo! Robert

PS. A Derby Coupe picture in Europe. RPS