How to find E9 History with VIN
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Gernstetter
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The BMW archive in Munich will for a fee give you a birth certificate of your car, you have to be the owner to get the information.
If your car is a US version you don't have to be the owner and BMW can only provide build date, color and destination, e.g. Hoffman Motors, NY. Rob is lucky in that euro cars have more info that BMW can provide.
You can send your VIN # to Andreas Harz at the address below and find out the production date, when and to whom the car was imported
[email protected]
[email protected]
Chris and Rob: What else exactly, and how, can BMW provide for Euro cars. When I emailed Andreas about mine, I received the same as everyone else: Date, color and delivery location. Is there more information available for Euro cars?
I only have/had Euro cars and that's all the info you'll get... you have to become a detective to get more history on your own. There are members here that can be helpful once you know where it was delivered to.
-Richard
-Richard
Luis,
You at least get the name of the dealer, here you get Hoffman only.
You at least get the name of the dealer, here you get Hoffman only.
The other service we have is you post detailed pictures and we make up the car history.
Way more a accurate than Tarot.
lol...
this also a lot more entertaining than chasing down the truth!
this also a lot more entertaining than chasing down the truth!
"The other service we have is you post detailed pictures and we make up the car history.
Way more a accurate than Tarot."
LOL! My 2800cs has a 'void' from its delivery in Jan '70 (polaris) to the Denzel dealership in Austria to arriving as a re-badged and repainted 3.0cs in Ceylon.
So, here is my theory:
Originally sold to SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) by the Denzel Grppe. Car was used heavily on numerous missions by a top SPECTRE agent with many encouters w/ MI6 (whose company car at the time was a Aston Martin DBS). It has the battle scars.
The polaris 2800cs was deemeded to recognizable to MI6 by SPECTRE, it was put on a submarine where it landed in Southern CA at some point as a Ceylon 3.0cs.
I am still trying to identify the SPECTRE agent had the car originally.
;-)
Way more a accurate than Tarot."
LOL! My 2800cs has a 'void' from its delivery in Jan '70 (polaris) to the Denzel dealership in Austria to arriving as a re-badged and repainted 3.0cs in Ceylon.
So, here is my theory:
Originally sold to SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) by the Denzel Grppe. Car was used heavily on numerous missions by a top SPECTRE agent with many encouters w/ MI6 (whose company car at the time was a Aston Martin DBS). It has the battle scars.
The polaris 2800cs was deemeded to recognizable to MI6 by SPECTRE, it was put on a submarine where it landed in Southern CA at some point as a Ceylon 3.0cs.
I am still trying to identify the SPECTRE agent had the car originally.
;-)
It is hard to be thorough without the visuals, especially the interior, but as a general principle secret agents prefer low key cars that blend well. Standout bling is more the turf of pimps. And pimps have more disposable cash than public servants so I would assume a pimp first owner.
Any enterprise designated "The Something Group" suggest they are in multiple unrelated activities they rather not enumerate, so the theory holds.
The change of color suggests the car was laundered via Asuncion-Paraguay, a route familiar to submariners which is paradoxical for a land-locked country. Only after that anonymizing step in Paraguay the car moved up to California, this time using La Carrera Panamericana to pass unnoticed through borders and customs. The VIN number matching the car build is a testament to how up to date the Paraguayan launderers were about the Karmann database.
Life is stranger than fiction.
Any enterprise designated "The Something Group" suggest they are in multiple unrelated activities they rather not enumerate, so the theory holds.
The change of color suggests the car was laundered via Asuncion-Paraguay, a route familiar to submariners which is paradoxical for a land-locked country. Only after that anonymizing step in Paraguay the car moved up to California, this time using La Carrera Panamericana to pass unnoticed through borders and customs. The VIN number matching the car build is a testament to how up to date the Paraguayan launderers were about the Karmann database.
Life is stranger than fiction.
nice one!
A pimp!? hhmmm....makes sense, requires further investigation into the car's travels through the underworld.
Entering CA via South America makes sense, explains the wholesale diamond trader/pawn shop's card from Whittier, CA I found under carpet in the trunk during its 'refurbishment'.
;-)
A pimp!? hhmmm....makes sense, requires further investigation into the car's travels through the underworld.
Entering CA via South America makes sense, explains the wholesale diamond trader/pawn shop's card from Whittier, CA I found under carpet in the trunk during its 'refurbishment'.
;-)
Gernstetter
Well-Known Member
Perhaps the NSA can figure out the history of our cars...or maybe they already have?