Interesting. Oh well at least it's from a German.
Any idea what VW it would be off? (Yes I know the button is aftermarket). What features make it a VW Petri vs. the BMW Petri?
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Original factory leather CSL 38cm Petri and hub for sale
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Interesting. Oh well at least it's from a German.
Any idea what VW it would be off? (Yes I know the button is aftermarket). What features make it a VW Petri vs. the BMW Petri?
they are also stamped 38 or 40 on the back of one spoke.
Wladek
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From VW Scirocco MK1, features - just grip finish, rest is 100% the same - stamps etc..
An interesting note - the CSL wheel i have sold is stamped 38 with the steering wheel logo on the back of each of the spokes, not just the one as i have seen before
Wladek
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All 38 Petri's Motorsport type (doesn't metter if it version: VW Scirocco, BMW 2002, BMW E9, or BMW E9 CSL), have stamped steering wheel logo and size on each of 3 spokes.
Wladek
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2x vw's and 2x bmw's 38's i has had stamps on all spokes, the only wheel that didn't was concave 40 audi Petri.
I’ve seen many more Petri’s with a stamp on only one spoke compared to those with three (or none). I’m not going to try to unpack all the mysteries of these wheels. It makes my head hurt. Most of my assumptions have been shattered by JohnP
and Keshav, who have more Petris on hand than most.
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The one on the 40 looks very different to the common stamps like the 38 has. Haven’t really noticed that type. Later production year possibly. Maybe a VW wheel? The 3 foam pieces on the spokes, are they square or more V in shape. Also the foam wrap structure is more prominent on the VW’s as opposed to the smoother wrap of the bmw’s.
Hi,
So to clarify is the only difference between the Scirocco Petri versus BMW Petri, is that the Scirocco version has a foam rubber grip and the BMW has leather covered stitched grip?
Wladek
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1. VW Scirocco - foam grip
2. BMW E9 regular 3 ring hub - foam grip
3. BMW 2002 regular 3 ring hub - foam grip
4. BMW E9 CSL 4 ring hub - foam leather wrapped.
Writing "grip finish" i didn't just meant leather or foam type grip.
Other than the leather covered 38cm CSL Petri, I believe all the other foam/rubber Petris, 38 or 40 are the same. Don’t believe there are BMW and VW specific Petris.
The CSL wheel has a harder stiffer core than the rest. The foam wheels have a really soft and squishy feel to them. Also, believe all the foam grip wheels have center rings spot welded to the spokes. The CSL wheel does not have this ring to the best of my knowledge.
The CSL wheel has a harder stiffer core than the rest. The foam wheels have a really soft and squishy feel to them. Also, believe all the foam grip wheels have center rings spot welded to the spokes. The CSL wheel does not have this ring to the best of my knowledge.
It is muddy my friend. There is definitely oem specific models but there are likely crossover wheels as well. For instance, my one and only Petri is from an Audi, and it is heavily dished. It was never offered on a BMW. Also, there are plenty of foam wheels without the spot welded ring also. I have no answers but now my head hurts again!
Yes Bert, I also don't think there is such a thing as a Scirocco Petri and an E9 Petri (unless one has a record of what car the wheel was originally on). The E9 hub is different of course, but for the wheel itself; spokes, foam grip, stamping is identical. So it's hard to distinguish/basically impossible what car the actual Petri wheel came off unless owner has the historic knowledge. Also the 'VW' Petri wheel was quite rare because came on Scirocco Mk 1 S mainly, so I don't think Petri would have made a special version just for the Scirocco Mk1 S?
Yes, neglected to mention the one off deep dish 40cm Audi Petri. But that is a completely different ‘animal’ altogether.
Yes found on a car that is arguably too rare to produce a one off wheel.
Probably more rare than the CSL which has a one off Petri, but not as rare as the 2002 Turbo which has a one off Petri. Definitely more rare than the TISA which...
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i have seen some differences in the foam on the spokes. there are some that have a 'squarer' foam tube on the spoke ... and there are others that have a taper that is reverse to the spoke. i have heard some people say that the reverse taper was VW and the squarer version was BMW. i do NOT know for sure, just heard this from some people who have a better chance of knowing than I. the image below is my 40cm. i have also attached a pic of the back spoke showing the symbol and the '40'. the leather petri below shows the 'squarer' approach ... i just don't know if that is leather only or if the foam BMW petri is the same way.
here is the other version that isn't leather covered.
