I guess that I just I'm just a little confused. Two weeks or so ago, Randy, you didn't know what the big deal was about the red handled screwdrivers from the toolkit (you said), then a couple of days later, you said you had three or four in a Folgers can in the basement from some no sale something. I even mentioned that we'd love to see'em....Now you have the huevos to give someone flak in a classified ad that doesn't have their red screwdrivers in their toolkit. Unless I missed something, you don't have an E9, but you're now a "senior member" of this board, so please try to be selective about what you decide to have the expertise about this week. Like Stefan, and your ex-wife, maybe I need to have it explained to me. And no, my toolkit no longer has any screwdriver; red, green, or other... in any of my 2.5 coupes. Disgression is the greater part of valor. And Samuel Clemens knew when to keep it shut, so as not "to confirm the fact". Look it up.