Coupe Ancestry project - summary

[rsporsche]

so here's where we are - of the total of 13,567 possible cars in this portion of the project, we know of / have seen information on 2,839 coupes ... 20.93% of coupes known within the project series. of the total 30,565 coupe total, that is only 9.29% overall ... but we haven't started to tabulate the euro CS / CSA versions

 

[sfdon]

We have 20+ coupes in the shops now.
Just sent you 7 VINS
Will send more from paint (5), upholstery (1)
Up on lifts (3), trim shop (2), storage (+-5)
When I get around to it.

 

[rsporsche]

many thanks Don ... very helpful. most were already in the project and 1 was added. most interesting is that one was listed as gone forever and is now among the living.
the summary is up to date.

 

[BinksE9]

many thanks Don ... very helpful. most were already in the project and 1 was added. most interesting is that one was listed as gone forever and is now among the living.
the summary is up to date.

Hi, I found this car at a SF Bay area repair shop. It's a Ceylon, Sunroof, 4 Speed car and it may be for sale. VIN is 2240404. Ed

 

[rsporsche]

very interesting Ed, this ceylon is 1 car earlier that the famous ceylon barn find that is owned by a member that is in incredible original condition. this one was NOT in the project or the registry ... good work !!!

 

[BinksE9]

very interesting Ed, this ceylon is 1 car earlier that the famous ceylon barn find that is owned by a member that is in incredible original condition. this one was NOT in the project or the registry ... good work !!!

From what I found out it's been off the road for at least 20 years...

 

[Arde]

very interesting Ed, this ceylon is 1 car earlier that the famous ceylon barn find that is owned by a member that is in incredible original condition. this one was NOT in the project or the registry ... good work !!!

Wow, so different fates. I guess living in a barn is a good thing for a car.

 

[Thomas76]

I'm certain that is a ton of work, even at 21%. It is fun to see passion for a hobby turn into support for the other enthusiast, nice work!

Are you collecting info on all cars now or still specialized sections?

 

[dave v. in nc]

Hi, I found this car at a SF Bay area repair shop. It's a Ceylon, Sunroof, 4 Speed car and it may be for sale. VIN is 2240404. Ed

She needs a little love.
My new site is waiting....Bring a Dust Pan....
Need more pictures...I gotta love Ceylon with patina. For sale how much?

 

[rsporsche]

I'm certain that is a ton of work, even at 21%. It is fun to see passion for a hobby turn into support for the other enthusiast, nice work!

Are you collecting info on all cars now or still specialized sections?

all of the cars listed in the summary (the VIN sections are noted)

 

[BinksE9]

all of the cars listed in the summary (the VIN sections are noted)

I found the VIN of a coupe I've owned twice, it's 2240870. I bought it about 2005 for $1000.00 and sold to a friend and bought it back from him in 2022/2023. I then sold it again months later. This was in the SF Bay Area and I think it's still in the area. Ed

 

[rsporsche]

thanks Ed,

its new to the project!! so happy to get it included.

 

[ScottAndrews]

Sevreal years ago I developed this mathematical model based on typical lifespan of cars (retired due to crashes, mechanical, etc). I belive it is based on actual production numbers, which seem to be higher than RSPorsche's 13367 vehicles (not sure which is correct. IIRC my number is all E9s). Today's number of viable cars is presumably lower, although I am also pretty sure the attrition rate slows down considerably as the cars get rarer, and more valuable, since cars that would otherwise be scrapped get restored.

 

[ScottAndrews]

Also, where is the PDF chart for this? I can't seem to locate one for all vehicles, just CSi

 

[rsporsche]

search 'coupe ancestry project' and you will find individual posts for the US 2800cs, the US 3.0cs, the 3.0CSL, and the 3.0CSi. its too much information to get into a single pdf as there are 8 different tabs in the spreadsheet. i guess i could place all of the pdfs in one post ... just thought it would get more response if it was easier to find the individual model.

 

[Arde]

Sevral years ago I developed this mathematical model based on typical lifespan of cars (retired due to crashes, mechanical, etc). I beliwve it is based on actual production numbers, which seem to be higher than RSPorsche's 13367 vehicles (not sure which is correct. IIRC my number is all E9s). Today's number of viable cars is presumably lower, although I am also pretty sure the attrition rate slows down considerably as the cars get rarer, and more valuable, since cars that woudl otherwise be scrapped get restored.

That was a great mathematical model Scott. Now, which side of the survival column is your black E9 project on ?

 

[rsporsche]

Also, where is the PDF chart for this? I can't seem to locate one for all vehicles, just CSi

its in the first post of this thread. fyi, yes the numbers for total e9 is lower than actual as i have not tallied the 220 thru 223 cars and 430, 4315 + 432 cars (which is an additional total of 17,198 cars) ... according to the records there are 30,546 total e9 ... and my summary of 13,567 is correct (for my portion of the project)

 

[ScottAndrews]

its in the first post of this thread. fyi, yes the numbers for total e9 is lower than actual as i have not tallied the 220 thru 223 cars and 430, 4315 + 432 cars (which is an additional total of 17,198 cars) ... according to the records there are 30,546 total e9 ... and my summary of 13,567 is correct (for my portion of the project)

Thanks. I can add another car for you.

2240344 is in Petaluma, CA
1972 currently black, originally Fjord
Will be restored over the next 3-4 years, and returned to Fjord
Bought in Arroyo Grande in 2006. Stored inside since then.

 

[ScottAndrews]

That was a great mathematical model Scott. Now, which side of the survival column is your black E9 project on ?

It's nearing the approach Arde!!

I have a bunch of silly projects to do before I start in earnest. Need to get rid of may daughter's vintage travel trailer to make room. Have to swap the Bronco engine for a crate motor and ship it to Nathan in Chicago (funny to have a guy that works at Tesla driving a gas powerd vintage Bronco), then need a quick redo of my 6er suspension. Meanwhile I have been collecting parts for the E9.

Currently have:
New Alpina replica wheels and new tires, full suspension kit and stainless exhaust from Carl Nelson, Stahl headers, new firewall pads, door seals, tail lamps, turn signal lenses, Getrag 265, and other misc bits.

Plan to strip the body, fix the minor rear quarter panel rust, do a glass-out repaint, rebuild the wire harness, rebuild the suspension, re-veneer the wood (deleting the speaker and the ashtrays), rubuild the dash, and have the interior done. And a zillion little projects like re-zinc chromating parts, and rebuilding heater, brakes, brakelines, etc..

Still need to buy a windshield, and the glass gaskets.

Still debating how to address the engine. It ran fine when I bought it. Probably do a modest rebuild, but still toying with a Korman rebuild with a conversion to a triple weber setup (i'd say there is a 70% lean in that direction..depends on how the new admin affects the economy...and how effectivly I react to that. shorts may be involved.. )

Scott

 

[rsporsche]

Thanks. I can add another car for you.

2240344 is in Petaluma, CA
1972 currently black, originally Fjord
Will be restored over the next 3-4 years, and returned to Fjord
Bought in Arroyo Grande in 2006. Stored inside since then.

yes, i already have it in the project, that update might not be posted ... but i will repost updates to all of the project in post 1 of this thread ...