I totally get the Camaro reference - well put.
I'm sure BMW could have created a much nicer successor to the coupe, given that they were still designing cars to be repaired by hands-on owners and the accountants had very little sway in their designs. Alas, the oil shock of the 1970s and the effect of government mandated changes to cars began a long, sad decline in automotive design, which begins to show up in the e24 and continues to this day.
Coming from a design/manufacturing background I can say that designers can come up with all kinds of new shapes, sizes and ideas, then it goes to the Engineers that have to make it real. Automotive evolution is limited by the capabilities of manufacturing. Like back in the day with all vehicles on the road having one of about three headlight choices, which limited what the vehicles could look like. As soon as they developed the sealed bulb setup, light Engineers went crazy with new designs, which radically changed the shapes of the vehicles in front. Bean counters like to leverage existing parts and their supply channels and cost. Engineers like to push things forward, but it's a constant battle.The jump from the e9 to the e24 is pretty staggering from a design standpoint.
Coming from a design/manufacturing background I can say that designers can come up with all kinds of new shapes, sizes and ideas, then it goes to the Engineers that have to make it real. Automotive evolution is limited by the capabilities of manufacturing. Like back in the day with all vehicles on the road having one of about three headlight choices, which limited what the vehicles could look like. As soon as they developed the sealed bulb setup, light Engineers went crazy with new designs, which radically changed the shapes of the vehicles in front. Bean counters like to leverage existing parts and their supply channels and cost. Engineers like to push things forward, but it's a constant battle.
Yeah, with the Camaro high waistline, if you have a large waistline you probably couldn't climb out the window if you needed to!Good point. Another example is the high
waistline on cars. I think some designs took advantage of it, such as the Camaro. However, all cars need a high waistline now due to crash standards.
Yeah, with the Camaro high waistline, if you have a large waistline you probably couldn't climb out the window if you needed to!![]()
You know this from personal experience?not in heals you couldn’t!!!
Touch the inner you! Plus it increases access to public restrooms and group discounts. Not to mention running for office.You know this from personal experience?![]()
I mean, I think we advertised it enough...Did the new coupe owners make it to the forum?
Did the new coupe owners make it to the forum?
First thing I thought of, but they may have been watching these threads all along..I think the new owner might not exactly want to see the comments regarding their new purchase![]()
I agree, but it did not seem to matter, 1 dollarFirst thing I thought of, but they may have been watching these threads all along..
You guys are rough on these carsI think the new owner might not exactly want to see the comments regarding their new purchase![]()
LOLI think the new owner might not exactly want to see the comments regarding their new purchase![]()
You guys are rough on these cars![]()
I totally get it. Not mad at anyone, we’re just pouting out the facts.For cars that are supposedly restored, I think it fair to comment and point out flaws. If a restored car has a poor finish or is missing something obvious, how can we trust what we can’t see![]()
If you compare the number of post fawning over every incorrect or poorly done feature on the car to the post actually pointing out issues or questions, I think we should be tougher.. Especially on cars over 100k....You guys are rough on these cars![]()