FS: Euro Hella/BMW H1 low beam lamp

[Dlc]

For sale is a used Hella H1 low beam lamp.
Fits for E9, E3, E12, E24.

Used but in good condition. No damage or rust. Includes H1 bulb.
BMW part number 63121356412.
Hella Nr 1B3 114 179 001.
Made in Germany.

Asking for 55 EUR + shipping.
Will dispatch from Austria/Europe.

 

[Krzysztof]

New part at BMW is about $70.

RealOEM.com - Part Search

At Hella new part (with warranty) is about $50. At least they are available here for this money.

Not sure anyone from US can be interested due to shipping and customs.

 

[Dlc]

appreciate your comment Krzszytof - all my sources show up at 100+ EUR at a minimum for this part.

 

[Krzysztof]

No problem. As you checked these are relatively cheap here.

I will check the Made-in-? topic.

Anyhow new part from BMW dealership it still acceptable in pricing but not for $55 of course.

 

[sfdon]

New part at BMW is about $70.

RealOEM.com - Part Search

At Hella new part (with warranty) is about $50. At least they are available here for this money.

Not sure anyone from US can be interested due to shipping and customs.

to be clear- the prices on realoem have no basis in reality for current pricing.
none…. Those prices are historical/years and years ago.

current dealer pricing is over 90.00 in USA but not available

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not available at:

USA dealers
Walloth
Schmiedmann’s
Stefan Ries
cswerke
bts autoteile

here in USA we buy these from European ebay and USA ebay.

new is $151.00 USA ebay

New Original BMW Low Beam Insert HELLA 63121356412 | eBay

Zustand: Das Teil ist neu, original.

www.ebay.com

New is €202.00 on eBay.de

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[Krzysztof]

to be clear- the prices on realoem have no basis in reality for current pricing.
none…. Those prices are historical/years and years ago.

current dealer pricing is over 90.00 in USA but not available

Thank you for putting more light on the topic but are the European lenses usable and in the interest of E9 owners in US?

I'm assuming Users from Australia and United Kingdom aren't interested in EU lenses due to different beam shaping required but maybe I'm wrong here.

 

[sfdon]

It’s a wonderful world- Hella thought of everything….

Low beam insert flat lens only for RHD models you need 2 for 1 car

Low beam insert flat lens only for RHD models you need 2 for 1 car

www.wallothnesch.com

 

[Krzysztof]

Thanks Don,

I was aware of the RHD and LHD versions...

My question was about different, so let me rephrase it ...

Is there any interest in new Hella headlights in EU configuration of lenses (still different than SAE) in US? I could probably organize some of them.

 

[HB Chris]

EU version is fine here and that version may be the only ones we find here anyways.

 

[sfdon]

We are having a very tough time buying them. Mostly buy from Ebay.de and Ebay.fr
I am interested!

 

[Ohmess]

Thanks Don,

I was aware of the RHD and LHD versions...

My question was about different, so let me rephrase it ...

Is there any interest in new Hella headlights in EU configuration of lenses (still different than SAE) in US? I could probably organize some of them.

Yes, I would think there would be interest here. They look much better on our cars, and some of us much prefer to reject stupid US DOT requirements when we have a chance. Sealed beam headlights fall into the stupid category.

 

[Krzysztof]

Thanks for info.

I have nailed down one piece but I will check with the Seller.
Once I will organize some I will let You know.

BTW
It looks like high beams are cheap and widely available and the problem is mostly with Low Beam.

Have you been also considering BOSCH-made replacement?

 

[HB Chris]

The difference in the Lo beam is US uses H4 Hi/Lo and euro uses H1 with 4w city light. I have not seen Bosch lamps here.

 

[Krzysztof]

Pre-Facelift E24 were using the sam mounting as E9, E12, E21 (320/6, 323i only)...

Parts without Hella name in the table were from BOSCH:

Headlight parts BMW 6' E24, 633CSi (M30) — BMW parts catalog

2009.bmwfans.info

Here are some pictures:

For E24 there was also a kit of headlights #63129057331 (one is missing below ;-) ):

 

[Krzysztof]

According to the data above the original part is available from BMW:

Original BMW Abblendlichteinsatz Stufenreflektor (63121371330)

Gratis Versand✓ Abblendlichteinsatz Stufenreflektor Ersatzteil für BMW 3er 5er 6er aus dem Scheinwerfer Sortiment - Beleuchtungsanlage

www.hubauer-shop.de

and on eBay as well.

And if it is fitting E12 it will fit E3 and E9, right?

 

[HB Chris]

It will fit all of these, are they H1 only and without city light? That link is H1 only and why we never saw them in the US.

 

[Krzysztof]

City lights/position/parking are also mandatory in EU so all cars should have them

It is also on the picture (#15):

In my humble opinion, nor E24 nor E12 have any other lamps to incorporate so called "position/parking lights"

My assumption was BOSCH was not recommended supplier of the headlights in the past (E9 era).

We know also others were producing lights to BMW as replacements, not only BOSCH or Hella, but they are much more difficult to find now as they have mostly extinct.

 

[HB Chris]

Marchal, Cibie and Carello were great lights, extremely hard to find NOS.

 

[nosmonkey]

Same as Ford capris I believe? I have a set of NOS hellas from a capri I will compare to my NOS bmw lenses although I think I only have the high beams from bmw

 

[Krzysztof]

Yes. Capri, Volkswagen Passat B1 (dual round headlight version), Audi 80, jaguar xj6 xj12 (low beam only),

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I might be interesting how good they are with the quality of beam shaping. In the past there were some test done and NN were really poor at that point despity bright and shiny reflectors inside as the glass quality and overall mechanical tollerance was horrible.