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dave v. in nc said:
When I woke up Friday morning before last, about 5:30am, all I could think about was The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald..."does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the wind turns the minutes to hours..." Hoping all goes safely for all of you FL folks, and your minutes are minutes...
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Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

Gord remains the one musician I have ever written fanmail to. He used to perform nearby in Fort Pierce quite regularly. "Ballad of Yarmouth Castle" is also pretty good, not nearly as well-known, but appropriate since the ship left Miami and burned offshore. A serious and little-known disaster.
 
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The flooding has just started. Luckily every last item on this level has been moved.
 
cicada said:
Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

Gord remains the one musician I have ever written fanmail to. He used to perform nearby in Fort Pierce quite regularly. "Ballad of Yarmouth Castle" is also pretty good, not nearly as well-known, but appropriate since the ship left Miami and burned offshore. A serious and little-known disaster.
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Appreciate the correction...waves are worse, yes. You guys stay safe.
 
However, it seems to me to be a good idea before tearing off the roof, if the wind strength does not exceed a critical level.
As someone wrote in a comment on the video:

" For anyone wondering about this. We from puerto rico tie down wood homes down.
Remember what makes a home go down is when the roof is ripped apart.
By strapping it down. The chances the house won't get completely damaged go really down
My grandma home has been strapped down for decades. And it survived maria and george and hortense.
Now it all depends also on how the house is built too.
But yes. This might help keep the roof down. "

I once saw a video on YouTube where the wind was lifting the entire roof of the house and finally tearing it off.

Poor or not, they are certainly inventive and probably effective to some extent.
 
Lucas said:
However, it seems to me to be a good idea before tearing off the roof, if the wind strength does not exceed a critical level.
As someone wrote in a comment on the video:

" For anyone wondering about this. We from puerto rico tie down wood homes down.
Remember what makes a home go down is when the roof is ripped apart.
By strapping it down. The chances the house won't get completely damaged go really down
My grandma home has been strapped down for decades. And it survived maria and george and hortense.
Now it all depends also on how the house is built too.
But yes. This might help keep the roof down. "

I once saw a video on YouTube where the wind was lifting the entire roof of the house and finally tearing it off.

Poor or not, they are certainly inventive and probably effective to some extent.
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i dont have the time to explain why this is very poor
no matter if the grandma home survived, that does not prove anything
 
deQuincey said:
i dont have the time to explain why this is very poor
no matter if the grandma home survived, that does not prove anything
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So please find time and explain. I am curious about the justification for your opinion.

Because according to me and simple laws of physics, if the strips on the roof are arranged along the structural elements of the roof (the so-called rafters) and in the film it looks like this is the case, then these strips will certainly, to some extent, keep the roof in place against the uplifting force of the wind that is reflected from the building's facade wall shoots upwards.
 
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i'm not so sure this is as bad of an idea as you might think. hurricanes tend to damage roofs in 2 different ways - one is to drop items on the roof, the other is to tear roofs off due to uplift due to negative force (suction on the downwind side). by strapping the roof down you are limiting the uplift forces - depending on how strong the straps are and how much force the anchors in the ground can sustain. while we don't know any of the specific details, this surely helps hold the roof down to the walls and helps hold the walls onto the foundation.
 
Just to illustrate how these strips from the film can help.
 

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Stevehose said:
Eye went over Siesta Key. Waiting on our surge reports.
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We benefited from a collapsing eye wall hitting us dead on which sent the surge more towards the south, unfortunately towards @craterface ’s area. We got about the same surge as Helene which washed the Key but our neighborhood across the intercoastal is dry. No power across the county. Tampa/St. Pete was hit hard by relentless rain and flooding. Hopefully heading back tomorrow to check on things like car and boat and to empty the refrigerator. I’ve reached out to @jjs2800cs and @Larry Louton but haven’t heard if they are ok yet.
 
Stevehose said:
We benefited from a collapsing eye wall hitting us dead on which sent the surge more towards the south, unfortunately towards @craterface ’s area. We got about the same surge as Helene which washed the Key but our neighborhood across the intercoastal is dry. No power across the county. Tampa/St. Pete was hit hard by relentless rain and flooding. Hopefully heading back tomorrow to check on things like car and boat and to empty the refrigerator. I’ve reached out to @jjs2800cs and @Larry Louton but haven’t heard if they are ok yet.
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thank you for this info, Steve
keep the information comming
we are in a awe to know about you all
 
I would guess we may not hear from craterface for a couple of days. I saw an update from the Sanibel city government that people won't be allowed back onto the island until the water treatment plant is operational.
 
I have some service very late at night -- LOTS of tree damage in the Vero Beach island-side area. Around 5:00PM, a few tornadoes ripped through the area and took a few roofs off as well as dropped some grown tree-sized limbs from my live oaks onto my landscaping. I'm just now getting my paths opened after 12 hours of work today. It's a huge mess. But nothing catastrophic. I only fear for how barren some of the choices neighborhoods on the island will look with many live oaks downed -- namely Riomar, only really choice because of its oaks.
 
We got about 30 inches in the lower level.
A messy gray film of silt over everything. Worse than Helene. No power, no water, no sewer. When we get those back, we can start the pressure washing process.
@deQuincey the issue with my house is not the wind. It is wood frame and with stood 150 mile an hour wind in hurricane Ian in 2022. It has a metal roof and the siding is made out of cement board. It does not rot. The windows are very heavy duty impact glass.
The problem is the flooding. The house has three floors. The first floor is garages and a recreation room. We used to have it all finished out with walls and plaster, etc. It used to be a spare bedroom too. After Ian, we got rid of all the walls and plaster. The floor is tile. So there are fewer things to be ruined by flooding. Flooding is the real problem in hurricanes. Most structures built after 1992 in Florida are very good at withstanding hurricane wind. There was a major hurricane in 1992 called hurricane Andrew and that changed the building codes. Our house ultimately will be fine, it’s just a very big mess to clean up.
 
@Ohmess after Hurricane Ian my Tesla was towed to a CoPart yard and sold at auction. I kid you not, the car is rebuilt and is in Ukraine. About six months after the storm, my wife got a notification on her Tesla app. It showed that the car was parked in a small town near Kharkiv. I read an article in wired magazine about the cottage industry of rebuilding wrecked Teslas in Ukraine specifically. My car had been submerged in 7 feet of salt water. So there is definitely a way to repair Tesla batteries. My guess is that they had two bad Teslas that they combine to make one good one.
 
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