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Very few early E-9 owners are aware of a long ago NLA part that was original equipment.

In Coupes that were originally equipped with the three point "spaghetti" type seatbelts there was a black plastic seat belt "docking clip" that fit on the handbrake handle and accepted both driver and passenger seatbelt buckles thus providing a means of storage when not in use. This part has long since been unavailable--about 30 years--since last available in dealers stock. You may remember my earlier posting discussing this subject about 2 months ago when looking for a sample part.

We have located two owners who still have said part and in turn graciously supplied measurements to us. i still had one that had suffered damage (a common problem was cracking) but served to provide actual visual fitment to the handbrake handle and the two seat belt buckles.

One of our members--a 30 year coupe owner who occasionally posts and never had that part--is in charge of materials engineering for a company supplying the aerospace industry. He has generously volunteered to replicate said part using a more robust and somewhat more flexible material with which they work and is available to him.

The first sample will be ready soon and I'm wondering how many 2800 CS owners beyond the two of us--for 1970 & 1971 models that still have the "spaghetti" type belts are out there and may want such a part. I don't have any cost estimates as yet but would appreciate hearing of your possible interest in having this part to help complete your early beauty.
 
Murray: Can you explain the spaghetti belts? I am not sure I have them on my '70 2800CS...I have a standard over the shoulder 3 pt belt, not the kind that rides up near the A pillar in that little track...Any photos would be appreciated.

Neal Friedant
 
Murray is referring to the fixed belts with no automatic retractors. When not in use they lay on the floor. Fixed belts were used up through the `73 models but the early 2800 had the shoulder belt that comes from the rear seat area. His clip fits on the handbrake and holds the female end of the belt when not in use.
 
Murray is a bit optimistic in stating the first sample will be ready soon. The initial drawings have not been finalized yet. Then a model will have to be made in order to cast a mold. I am doing this in any spare time I have at work, which is in low supply at this time. Once the model is made, the fabrication of the mold will be a long drawn out procedure resulting in a multi-component 3D jigsaw puzzle looking construction.

After that, the fun begins in learning if there are any complications during the molding process.

So Murray; if you think anything less than a year is soon, you may be correct. I try to be optimistic but when it comes to this kind of thing I have learned to be conservative to help relieve pressure from anticipated early delivery.
 
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gwittman said:
So Murray; if you think anything less than a year is soon, you may be correct. I try to be optimistic but when it comes to this kind of thing I have learned to be conservative to help relieve pressure from anticipated early delivery.
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Under promise and over deliver!
 
From the sidelines

As a life long entreprenuer in technical product development I may seem more optimistic of Gary's talents to deliver than is Gary the engineer.

But--it does beg the why of the remark--"Under promise and over deliver"--seems a trite and unecessary shot leveled toward the efforts by fellow Coupe owners to fabricate a long absent and desirable part for other owners.

So JhwShark--whoever you are--the question was--how many early Coupe owners would want such a part when available--are you interested in the part or ?
 
I like it, but I have 4 point harness on both front seats; the original owner had them installed. I may go for updating the seat belts if I get some S seats in the future.

He also had the factory tow bar installed for one of the trailer's (coupe rear end type) but wouldn't sell it. He pulled a 505 more than the trailer and he wasn't selling the boat either.
Jon
 
blumax said:
As a life long entreprenuer in technical product development I may seem more optimistic of Gary's talents to deliver than is Gary the engineer.
...why of the remark--"Under promise and over deliver"--...

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The phrase has been used by consultants delivering projects for clients...it means promise less but give more....they did not want to -- not fulfill an obligation and dissatisfy the client and then lose future business. Maybe expect 12 months but complete in 10...being conservative.

It has no reference to a personal context. not a shot...I'm not a shooter; it is very unproductive, unprofessional, and unnecessary for boards and social media sites where collaboration is key.

Sorry for any bad feelings generated.
Jon
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JhwShark said:
blumax said:
As a life long entreprenuer in technical product development I may seem more optimistic of Gary's talents to deliver than is Gary the engineer.
...why of the remark--"Under promise and over deliver"--...

QUOTE]

The phrase has been used by consultants delivering projects for clients...it means promise less but give more....they did not want to -- not fulfill an obligation and dissatisfy the client and then lose future business. Maybe expect 12 months but complete in 10...being conservative.

It has no reference to a personal context. not a shot...I'm not a shooter; it is very unproductive, unprofessional, and unnecessary for boards and social media sites where collaboration is key.

Sorry for any bad feelings generated.
Jon
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No bad feelings here. I have never heard the term but I knew the meaning. BTW, guessing a year is very conservative but I have developed many products and know not to expect things to go as smoothly as I would like.

I am now designing the mold configuration and have cut out a chunk of aluminum. Now I just need to find the docking clip model waiting inside that chunk of aluminum.
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3D printer

Why not use a 3D printer once you have the part modeled? The materials for these 3D printers have come a long way!
 
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