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azcarguy
Perhaps you could simply put together a list of actual questions. With all of odd
quotes and gibberish I don't really understand what you're asking???? If your
attempting to elevate the sale price of your own vehicle you might be better served
listing it in the classified section of the forum and listing all of the various
way's that it's superior to the other cars that have sold recently. From you site I
can't make out single image of an actual complete car. Am I missing something?
Boy and I thought I got in late last night and was unwinding on the compute but 01:14 AM that’s 02:14AM in Arizona.
Sorry “azcarguy” if the questions were confusing but here were the basic ones I was curious about and was only quoting and asking what others have posted on here?
Question By “bfeng”
For a car that's undergone not one but two $100k restorations, why hasn't the undercarriage been stripped and refinished? I've pretty much never heard
of anyone spending that much on a restoration without going to the "nut and bolt"
level including a show quality underside”
One question I have is was the white synthetic rubber coating stripped, rust remover and recoated before your paint job?
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“I would have taken the front fenders OFF the car BEFORE having the inner/outer fenders fixed. Without taking the panels off the car, you'll never be able to clean up both sides of the sheet metal to original appearance. It also means you can't totally strip the underside of the fenders and fully rust-proof them”
I personally think anyone one claiming $100,000 if not two times $200,000 restoration on a CS coupe many would question that especially how the bottom looks. I could see $200,000 spent on restoration on a car like Carroll Shelby's Cobra that sold for $5.5 million including gold plating parts of the car.
Also I thought this was posted in the “BMW E9 Coupe Discussion Forum > Classifieds > Cars” as listed above.
If my website site is also confusing to you which is understandable maybe for this forum I will contact Dang / Dan the Administrator of this site now he offered to put a page on to advertise this car awhile ago I hope the offer is still there.
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“execmalibu”
It seems that you have chosen to voice your point of view on the matter so I try to give you mind only because. As you say it seems you have restored many cars and if so good for you. It is very rare to find hands-on restorers on these forums that really do the work.
Although you have stated “I come from that group and much prefer Original as opposed to the worlds best restoration.” As said, your opinion is more about paint and upholstery “Cosmetics” that is not restoration too me but just finish body work. WELL NOW WECLOME TO THE RUSTING WORLD OF THE E9.” Many of these coupes once I have open them up I have shoveled hundreds of pounds of rust off the floor.
I recently had a man call me from Europe that told me he had been looking all over Europe for a rust free CSI for five years and everything he had seen was a rust buck and no matter the price, CSL’s too. To give you IMO obviously this is why many have chosen to modify the American CS over Euro cars, a dryer climate. Although as like you, I do not feel it is right to change the design of the cars and keep it as a classic, same motor numbers and no body modifications.
As I was taught starting in night school for bodywork in 1963 for two years after high school once a car was stripped then tank dropped only then can you can see the rust cancer. Body parts are ONLY removed one part at a time then the OEM (exsample) fender is clamped in place and on these BMW couples spot welded in place, leding work as BMW did fender to nose-clip.
I started body work and restoration work in 1963 doing Morris Minors we want them for travel everyday to go surfing here in California and the little Station Wagons were cool and got 46 miles to a gallon of gas. Now day they are worth more than many of these e9's.
Then for decades I restored the “El Camino” best truck I ever had still have a 1982 for pulling my Sea Ray boat.
And not to keep just going on although this statement is not true and very questionable and not how restoration is done.
“execmalibu”
Again no offense but I would never want to buy a car like yours that has been in a million pieces and had numerous major body panel replaced (Fenders, Nose, Rockers etc). On your car the black shock towers scream super rusty car to me and most E9 guys! Not rust free. There are lots of cars like yours that get taken to far apart and many never get put back together because of the time and money. Or they get put together wrong or are over restored with black undercoating or shinny paint in places that were never painted.
First, as I said as taught “Body parts are ONLY removed one part at a time then the OEM say fender is clamped in place and on these BMW couples spot welded in place, leding as BMW did fender to nose-clip.”
The man that was the overseer on my CSI was Certified in Germany for a mechanic and body work for BMW, Mercedes and Porsche, he had one of the best shops is Santa Barbara at the time. He was the one that loan me the steel frame the CSI was supported on while restoration was done. By the time I was done he was asking me questions.
About the “On your car the black shock towers scream super rusty car to me and most E9 guys! Not rust free”
Wrong again, the car was tank dropped for 7 days in muriatic and phosphate acid that does not stop until all rust is gone including seems and closed compartments, following 3 days in a neutralizing tank. Then again one at a time parts like the fender was removed and the inter wheel-well replaced with NEW OEM BMW body parts ONLY, SO WHAT RUST ON THE SHOCK TOWERS THEY ARE NEW?
Next all sections including the undercarriage was then sprayed with gallons of $30a quart synthetic latex. All seems coc*ed, then primer coated with a double fish oil base paint. Following undercoated everywhere but the outside body ready for paint which is primer coated with a double fish oil base paint. As you should know “execmalibu” these are some of the highest rust preventives made to date.
Anyhow, these couples are rusting and have been for decades not to do your best to preserve the e9 couples that are still left is very questionable to me and I chose to fix it before you cannot fix it anymore and it is just a rust bucket of junk.
Also one last point:
We all have to give “azcarguy” credit on his car sale he made his point. The main thing he has proven is that the restored modified CS coupe is very desirable now day over the classic original style coupe in a big way by getting paid more than the CSL that sold on ebay recently.
My restored CSI >>>
http://shred-master.com/new_page_2.htm
Bob