More Tariff Madness

so now they make liars out of all of us.
I mark my packages abandon if undeliverable to give them the idea that the value is indeed very low.
 
Fyi, Dutch postal office just declared they will restart package delivery to the US by the end of the month, but only for values <100 usd.

The beginning of getting back to normal?
So it sounds like @eriknetherlands should set up a package relay service from W-N to the US!!! Probably make enough to keep his E9 in great condition free!
 
Having dug into this more, the degree of "stupid" on the part of US Customs is just staggering (why does this not surprise me, given the level of "professionalism" we have come to expect from the rest of the current US Admin.?)...

Not only is the invoice clearly marked with the correct customs code (car parts are tariffed at 15%), the shipping cost is also clearly identified..

Yet, US Customs decided to apply the "steel commodity" tariff to the entire shipment, including the shipping...

I guess this is what we can expect when we have chaos instead of actual bureaucratic administration...
 
CBP Import Specialist training is a rigorous, classroom-based program at the Field Operations Academy (FOA) in Glynco, Georgia, focusing on 19 U.S.C. 1500 (19 USC 1500), classification, appraisal, customs laws, and trade enforcement. Training involves technical instruction in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule, ACE and TECS computer systems, and includes practical exercises, case studies, and written exams to assess the trainee's ability to classify, appraise, and liquidate imported merchandise. Trainees learn to ensure compliance with trade and tariff laws, protect public health and safety, and enforce intellectual property rights, all within a dynamic law enforcement environment.
 
Sure…

I did talk with my delivery guy today. Who is the nicest dude ever. He does have the most peculiar taste in music… but I digress. He and I just kinda blankly stared at the package. I asked if he could offer a different channel of communication?

He just said no and that about a quarter of his packages today were refused. He did say that this was an exceptionally light week for him.

I thanked him after refusing the package and we parted as … well delivery dude and customer.
 
CBP Import Specialist training is a rigorous, classroom-based program at the Field Operations Academy (FOA) in Glynco, Georgia, focusing on 19 U.S.C. 1500 (19 USC 1500), classification, appraisal, customs laws, and trade enforcement. Training involves technical instruction in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule, ACE and TECS computer systems, and includes practical exercises, case studies, and written exams to assess the trainee's ability to classify, appraise, and liquidate imported merchandise. Trainees learn to ensure compliance with trade and tariff laws, protect public health and safety, and enforce intellectual property rights, all within a dynamic law enforcement environment.
But apparently they can't read.. The invoice and customs forms explicitly stated the contents and identified the customs material code as AUTO PARTS. SO despite all of this alleged training they apparently either don't care , or can't read...
 
Sure…

I did talk with my delivery guy today. Who is the nicest dude ever. He does have the most peculiar taste in music… but I digress. He and I just kinda blankly stared at the package. I asked if he could offer a different channel of communication?

He just said no and that about a quarter of his packages today were refused. He did say that this was an exceptionally light week for him.

I thanked him after refusing the package and we parted as … well delivery dude and customer.
So the net result ot these tariffs, ham handedly and usually incorrectly imposed by US Customs will apparently be to save a non-existent manufacturing capability in the US for foreign car parts, and simultaneously create a 25%+ reduction in US shipper volume, thereby reducing jobs in that sector.

Good to see someone is clearly thinking through the implications of their actions...
 
But apparently they can't read.. The invoice and customs forms explicitly stated the contents and identified the customs material code as AUTO PARTS. SO despite all of this alleged training they apparently either don't care , or can't read...
Agree, they are facing a new situation. But perhaps fairness requires to note that they were mostly hired before January 20 I suspect.
 
So... Here's the gig on this... I give this like a 10% chance of this working.

I finally got to someone... Sort of.. who knew a touch of something.

Long and short of it. You have to file a claim with UPS... After you pay the duty! Like someone mentioned previously. I have two shipments that I have to do this for.

I just highly doubt that this is going to work out. They did email me the form. Have not looked at it yet. Will advise.
 
So... Here's the gig on this... I give this like a 10% chance of this working.

I finally got to someone... Sort of.. who knew a touch of something.

Long and short of it. You have to file a claim with UPS... After you pay the duty! Like someone mentioned previously. I have two shipments that I have to do this for.

I just highly doubt that this is going to work out. They did email me the form. Have not looked at it yet. Will advise.
Post the from when you get it. W-N sent me an email address, where I sent the information as well as the invoice and a letter from W-N. I got a reply from UPS saying they would look at it, but their backlog reached back to June 15! So it is sure to be months before and if I receive any refund. I agree about the 10% chance of working...
 
so here is the next question as i have not read the tariff executive order - where does the discussion on used parts land. i would think there should be no tariff on used parts ... anybody have any knowledge on this?
 
so here is the next question as i have not read the tariff executive order - where does the discussion on used parts land. i would think there should be no tariff on used parts ... anybody have any knowledge on this?
It would seems reasonable to assume that. Although my observation is that it is currently not very reasonable to assume reasonableness vis a vis tariffs..
 
I am shaking my head thinking about readings from college. Alvin Toffler comes to mind, where in the 1970's he described moving towards a service and technology based economy.

The factories that we have now are dark, meaning there are few people doing the work, fewer each year. Even China is completely automating production. The days of "new" plants employing thousands is a thing of the past.
 
just think of the tariffs that a manufacturer would have to pay to get the robots to work in the factories ... not that many of them are made here in the USA
 
I am shaking my head thinking about readings from college. Alvin Toffler comes to mind, where in the 1970's he described moving towards a service and technology based economy.

The factories that we have now are dark, meaning there are few people doing the work, fewer each year. Even China is completely automating production. The days of "new" plants employing thousands is a thing of the past.
I agree about the fantasy of zillions of manufacturing jobs..

There is nothing inherently wrong with a "service economy". In fact it is the lack of accounting for the service economy that seems to be driving the Admin anxiety about trade deficits.

A key flaw is that they are not accounting for all facets of the economy. If the US truly had a massive trade deficit, it would not be long before we all had no money, and some other country or countries had it. But that is not the case. The US is the richest country on the planet, and we are rich today because we sell lots of services to the world, and using the money the countries in the world pay us, we then buy washing machines from China and clothes from Vietnam... If you only look at manufactured goods and raw materials, in terms of trade, then you are missing a massive segment of the US economy.

I could go on about why I thin this admin is so infatuated with tariffs, but that's fodder for another post in another thread... Suffice it to say that a) there is nothing bad about a service economy, and b) it is unrealistic to imagine that bringing manufacturing back to the US would create any manufacturing jobs. All of it would be automated, and supported by that same service economy...
 
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