Possible Wheel Options - 17x8/9 Staggered

[MPowerE9]

Those are my wheel specs that I got. Did you need any spacers? What size of tires? Rolled the fenders?

From what I know, the staggered 18" Style5s were factory BMW wheels found only on the Euro market 7-series (E38?).

5mm spacers in the front with 215/45/18. No spacers in the rear with 245/40/18. Fenders rolled at all four corners lowered with aftermarket suspension bits.

 

[Erik]

I think they are 17's. The tires are stretched so the profile looked smaller than the typical 45's you would see on 17's. To answer your other question, you can get 18" two piece RC's. They are around $1,000 a set unfinished.


Another cool option is a BBS RZ 394 from a BMW 850. They are 16x8.5. I wasn't sure how well they would work with an offset of 13 or so. I don't have any pics of them mounted on an E9, but I have a YouTube video with a very brief shot of them mounted on a Polaris 3.0CS. FYI - There is an 17" set on CL right now.

Not an e9:

Anyone run the RZ 394 16" on a coupe? Looks like they came on e30 m3 also?

 

[Markos]

Anyone run the RZ 394 16" on a coupe? Looks like they came on e30 m3 also?

I mentioned that I had a video clip of one. I know I bookmarked it but I can't find it for the life of me. It was a Polaris coupe walkaround at a european car show, on youtube.

The 'RZ' reference is like 'RS' or 'RC'. There are plenty of BBS RZ's found on BMW's. The ones that I posted above are RZ 394, which wouldn't fit 'properly' on an E30 M3. If you look at the RZ's on the M3, they have almost no lip. E30's have offsets in the 30's. The pic above is actually an E30 M3, and you can see how the wheels are protruding.

These are et13 at 8.5" wide. The wheel is going to protrude quite a bit. The question is whether it looks good or ridiculous. I only saw the rear in the video and it looked good. The fronts may have been staggered, which would look pretty cool as well. If you have 7" wheels, you probably have an offset of ET11 or so. Ask yourself if you could have the wheel stick out another 3/4", which is about where the RZ's would sit.

 

[Rek]

Wheel sizes

I have tried to put Alpina 17" wheels from my B10 3.5 donor car on my E9 and the rears are fine.

The fronts stick out way too much. I was hoping to just bolt them on but the 8.5j wheel is just too wide and the lower offset makes it worse.

The wheel has an offset of 20mm. The best fit for me is E36 Alpina Classic style with an offset of 46mm which is the same as the winter wheels for the B10.

I haven't source them yet but I would need a thin spacer and the fenders rolled. Thats going to happen but there is other stuff to do first.

Pictures below show the 'before' position.

 

[Markos]

I'm a bit confused. The 17" RC090 has an offset of ET20. The wheel is 8" wide. You need to run at least a 3mm spacer to prevent the struts from rubbing. With all that said the wheel doesn't stick out of the fender. Your wheels look like they are sticking out over an inch, certainly more than the an extra .25" caused by the 8.5" wheel.

Also, what size spacer do you plan to run with an ET46 offset? if ET20 7" wheels rub the strut, I would think that you would need at least a 26mm spacer, aka 1". That can't be good for your wheel bearings.

Is my math wrong?

 

[Aussiecsi]

Markos, the RC090 is 8" wide.

 

[Markos]

Markos, the RC090 is 8" wide.

Thanks for auditing. I was hoping someone would. The 7" reference (fixed) was a typo. I should know better since I have a set of RC090's. The width math is still right as far as I know. An 8.5 wheel with is .25" wider on each side than an 8" wheel. If both wheels are ET20, why is that Alpina wheel sticking out so far?

 

[Rek]

I'm a bit confused. The 17" RC090 has an offset of ET20. The wheel is 8" wide. You need to run at least a 3mm spacer to prevent the struts from rubbing. With all that said the wheel doesn't stick out of the fender. Your wheels look like they are sticking out over an inch, certainly more than the an extra .25" caused by the 8.5" wheel.

Also, what size spacer do you plan to run with an ET46 offset? if ET20 7" wheels rub the strut, I would think that you would need at least a 26mm spacer, aka 1". That can't be good for your wheel bearings.

Is my math wrong?

No it should be right but I need to check. I am confirming whether my existing Alpina wheel has a ET of 20 or 12/14 which is on some sources.

The B10 Alpina had winter wheels with a higher offset and narrower, presumably for snow chains, and having done some agricultural maths and drawings, a 2-3mm spacer will be required and it will be tight.

I have a cheap source for some wheels and have bought one to try on the front.

I am after the look in the picture where the front is said to be 8" from a B10 3.5, the only one of which was the winter tyre.

Then on to the ride height.

 

[Albert]

Anyone know anything about these?

These are 18x8 & 18x9 but no sure about the ET. I'm between 17"-18" for my E9.

 

[Markos]

Anyone know anything about these?

These are 18x8 & 18x9 but no sure about the ET. I'm between 17"-18" for my E9.

Those are HRE's. I believe that they weren't on the market when Mike B. first picked them up. Discussed in the original article.

I believe @teahead has a set of new 18" style 5's for sale if you are interested in going that direction.

 

[Gransin]

Anyone know anything about these?
These are 18x8 & 18x9 but no sure about the ET. I'm between 17"-18" for my E9.

Yes, as Markos said they are HRE's and the specs are/were:
Fronts 18x8" ET10
Rears 18x9" ET10

 

[WISE9UY]

Here is another angle, now I am back to thinking 17s. Anyone?

Christian Heine's car's BBS RS wheels are 17" per the Stanceworks article. Look in the picture just below the close up of the mirror. I happen to have a set of staggered style fives with near perfect faces, polished lips, new centers and new Continental rubber. PM me if you are interested.

To that end I also have non-staggered style 5, 18" staggered style 5 and RZ 418 which has the perfect offset of 13 for our cars and slighly narrower 7.5" size. I am about to finish building a set of wheels that replicate the Christian Heine E9 but still undecided which will make it onto my car. For the reason of indecision I have all these wheels and have painstaking sought them out because the staggered sizes are indeed hard to get, particularly when chasing good sets. Once I land on what I want on my car, all the rest will be up for sale. The wheels I mention being for immediate sale are nice on the E9 and the lip of the style 5 actually compliments the chrome belt line very well. However I am so deep in to the 17" BBS build and having recently acquired a set of staggered Alpina's feel that those will never live on my car so would rather fund ongoing work and recoupe some money. Chasing the right wheels is expensive and as others have mentioned, they can cost thousands. Just getting new centers, as I am about to do will cost $800 for the 17" RS set. Getting beaten up sets means that you need to be prepared to spend money to either polish the lips, buy new and address paint of the faces and condition of the centers. BUT wow do the wheels make these cars

 

[WISE9UY]

Here is my car with the 17" staggered style 5's

To overcome the concern with the rubbing up front, my tire sizes are 205 up front and 225 on the rear on the 8" and 9" rims respectively. The slight stretch ensures that they tuck under the fenders.

 

[Albert]

Yes, as Markos said they are HRE's and the specs are/were:
Fronts 18x8" ET10
Rears 18x9" ET10

Awesome thank you because I am making a set of wheels and was looking for those ET to make that same fitment. I am doing them like this but I have not confirmed which finish to do.

 

[BarryG]

16x8 and 16x10 bbs rs

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[Wladek]

16x8 and 16x10 bbs rs


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Love the look of your E9 Barry - these custom width RS's look awesome! Definitely one of the nicest RS sets for E9! In one of my RS sets i also have stepped 3" Lips on rear and 2" stepped on front (i know you have 3.5 or 4" on the rear and 2.5" on front).
Personally i think 17" is maximum for e9, but as for me 16" is perfect.
Owners should also consider long term driving comfort if they go 17", 18" as someone, somewhere wrote that 16" is way too much for e9.

 

[BarryG]

Wladek
These RSs started out as 005 & 006, I rebuilt then a few years back.
I've ran 14" wheels and the steering was very light as it should be. 17" looked good and filled the wheel well but that was not what I was after... these wheels fit the size of the car perfect.

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[Wladek]

Wladek
These RSs started out as 005 & 006, I rebuilt then a few years back.
I've ran 14" wheels and the steering was very light as it should be. 17" looked good and filled the wheel well but that was not what I was after... these wheels fit the size of the car perfect.

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Correct me Barry if i am wrong - now you have:
Front - 2,5" Lips + 0,5" Rotors + 5" Barrels, ET ~ 0 (zero)
Rear - 4" Lips + 0,5" Rotors + 5,5" Barrels, ET also ~ 0 (zero)

Can you please tell me what are the dimensions of used tires (width and profile height for F/R)?
Thanks

 

[BarryG]

Oem 005 RSs / fronts
1 1/2" lip , face is 1/2" barrel 5" total 7"

Oem 006 RSs/ rear
1 1/2" lip face is 1/2" barrel 6" total 8"

I replaced the front lip with a 2 1/2" and the rear with a 3 1/2" ... 8" and 10" total

Toyo r1r tires 225/45 & 205/45

Remember you take the measurements from the inside of the lip not from the outer lip.

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[teahead]

You must have SOME rubbing on the rear. 10" RIM???