Reintroduction and some new parts in the works.

Ed - Ha, can imagine so. I am curious about 123dizzy's availability on the more exotic hardware.

Stephen - I'm %100 in agreement! It is a beautiful solution. I figure hiding the line altogether is a close second (with higher safety margins).
 
AceAndrew said:
Re: The M30 Triple Weber Fuel Rails.

The initial thought was to make a continuous rail like I already do for the M10 (and one M20) engine. See photos below for reference. Very simple, but too risky on an M30.

The problem is that with the M30 setup, that is a LONG ridged hardline that is subjected to quite a few vibrations (even with phenolic spacers). Instead, it would be ultimately visually cleaner and mechanically safer to run the line underneath the carbs with separations using normal rubber hose. The best example of this would be the OEM setup used on the Maserati 3500gt (not the Aston, my mistake). I have a jig going together (sawed-off intake portion of a cracked M30 head) and should have a part ready to start selling in the next 4-6 weeks.
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FWIW - that is exactly what at least one member has had on his car for years. His is fully welded with no visible seams though. It is also exactly what I am doing but I'm using the smallest available Ross fuel rail. It's a little clunky looking however.

I have also heard from several people that it is best not to use the phenolic spacers on an M30..
 
Well, if people were willing to take the risk, I'd be happy to make them available in that way as well. However, I don't want to promote a false sense of security when there is a risk factor that needs to be considered.

Now, I've done what I can engineering-wise to minimize that risk factor. The tubing is thick-walled and seamless. The billet connector piece is done in such a way that the stress is not applied directly onto the brazed-joint. (In fact, I designed the connector piece to just be an upsized version of what the clever Stromberg guys use on their carb setups). Lastly, I use a high-silver content braze alloy (%56 silver) which adds a little flexibility compared to cheaper, lower-silver content, brazing alloys. A welded joint would be much worse. Still, all of that being considered, that is a LONG stretch of unsupported and ridged metal. All it takes is one failure for someone to have a very bad day.

In regards to phenolic spacers, I generally agree. When most people are referring to them, they are referring to the spacers that are plastic with O-rings. With those poorly designed parts, it's not a matter of if, but when, they will leak. However, a spacer cut entirely from a suitable material (like Kevlar), would be helpful to those looking to reduce vibration-related maladies. Being made from a "soft" monogenous material means that the entire face would be used to seal/dampen, as opposed to just the o-ring.
 
OK, now for dumb-guy questions: How do you ship the brake lines pre-bent? What’s your lead time estimate if not in stock? Do you have mounting hardware suggestions? I didn’t see them on your site, which I really liked btw.

Sorry if you’ve answered these, and I ADHD’d past it.
 
Jay - They ship in a normal cardboard box, actually just going over box dimensions right now in the U-Line catalog. Lead time is 1 week after the intent-to-purchase has been established. I have a spreadsheet for the 2002 with all the auxiliary mounting hardware (with part numbers), putting one together for the Coupe right now. The idea is that you can send it to your favorite OEM-parts supplier and they can handle it.

Stan - oof! That 3/8"(AN) setup is pretty beastly! It's like the uber-muscly "Arnold Schwarzenegger" setup. Great for some applications.
 
Hi Mark,

I make the lines out of Cunifer. I prefer not to use stainless steel for brake lines for a variety of reasons. Bullet points are as follows.

1) Cunifer offers corrosion resistance on par with stainless steel
2) Cunifer is softer that SS, so it is bent easier and seals better.
3) Cunifer offers the same ultimate tensile strength and burst pressure as comparable steel lines
4) Cunifer can be polished like stainless (albeit with a nice copper undertone)

https://www.copper.org/applications/automotive/brake-tube/brake.html
http://www.brakeconnect.com/cunifer-brake-line

In short, it combines the benefits of both stainless steel and typical coated steel lines.
 
Rick, that's great news. Thanks for the kind words, hopefully they treat you well.

MDR said:
I tried to order a set today - says “no shipping option “ I don’t understand and would appreciate assistance. I’m located at a residence in Minnesota.

Thank you.
Mark
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Mark, the online shipping system isn't great yet. If you email me directly with your address, I'll happily send over an invoice manually. ([email protected])
 
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