Turkis in Munich
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johanaxelson
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yes, is in BMW museum.
Don was working on one, if it is not done, worth the trip to Alameda to see it!
Gorgeous in real life
Damn! That Turkis is gorgeous indeed.
Illuminated for deception just like a Vegas casino.
Does it have metal valve stems? How long are they?
Still missing the wiper wind deflector, proves the curator does not read our posts.
I think I see Shanon in a mirror reflection, he hid until close time to measure the window times. 43 seconds round trip.
Does it have metal valve stems? How long are they?
Still missing the wiper wind deflector, proves the curator does not read our posts.
I think I see Shanon in a mirror reflection, he hid until close time to measure the window times. 43 seconds round trip.
I would be equally interested in any date codes or other data on the sidewalls. Inner tubes may not be widely used with V rated tires but they are still around along with rim tape. (To my tired and unassisted eyes, in another photo of the same car, I think I spot a stubby "metal" inner tube valve.)
Maybe the wiper spoiler was moved to the correct position, but the image is new old stock? Curator could have taken a job with VW, as there may be some recent openings. :roll:
Has anyone determined when the photo was taken? Unless the same car posted by Feri (a few years ago) was retrofitted, this model has manual front windows, so the stopwatch reading could be much quicker. Curious whether BMW even bothers leaving batteries in these display cars, let alone any maintenance aside from dusting. That dome light is lethal. If the clock was still working it could also be a battery assassin, along with the trunk light. What about lubricants and fluids? Synthetic or conventional? Prestone chartreuse? BMW blau? Or ablassen?
While on the subject of this specific car, is there any publicly available history on it? Has anyone ever posted its VIN and mileage?
The car looks all-original, but is it? By its twentieth birthday, my similar original cloth interior was so brittle and unforgiving that I considered having it carbon dated by the same folks investigating the Shroud of Turin. I am also wondering if the paint is original one or two stages - with a clear coat. After donning sunglasses, gaze at that spectacularly clean inner fender well. Not that the flat black side grille does not look good, but I would be willing to bet this specific model was originally equipped with the chrome version. :-?
Hate to cast aspersions, but holding a key so close to a museum car is a recipe for a visit from security. Then again, maybe BMW has no objection to everyone and anyone testing the ignition switch provided they have a dimpled key that fits?
From Feri's original post: http://e9coupe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26070&postcount=33
Can anyone make out the rear window sticker?
LOok Ma, no front power windows! Is that radio mono? Nice thin leather wrapped wheel. Not so sure about that shift knob. Bet it's a replacement. Notice the chrome bar above the brake handle, are there seatbelts to go with it?
I saw it a couple years ago.
The wipers were mixed up.
Needs Carl Nelson lowering springs and the strut spacers removed.
The sticker in the back is proof of the Tactyl "rust protection," Germany's version of Ziebart.
The wipers were mixed up.
Needs Carl Nelson lowering springs and the strut spacers removed.
The sticker in the back is proof of the Tactyl "rust protection," Germany's version of Ziebart.
I have answers, some may even be right:
1 - The battery is disconnected
2 - The car is not a factory NOS preserved unit, it was delivered to a real owner trough a dealer.
3 - The tiny sticker probably says "If you can read this you are damn too close to my car".
4 - Shanon measured the rear window speed, of course.
5 - I love that shift knob, I had it in a 77 E24, I wish I could get one today.
6 - The car was not delivered in Germany, probably Italy
How do I know all this?
1- The clock shows a time that is past 6, the Museum is not open at that time, ergo the clock does not work.
2 - The car has radio and antenna, which are dealer installed.
6 - Seat belts were mandatory in Germany since 1970, and the car is a 71 and has no seat belts. It is a Euro and has cloth so it could be Italy where seat belts were not yet mandatory.
1 - The battery is disconnected
2 - The car is not a factory NOS preserved unit, it was delivered to a real owner trough a dealer.
3 - The tiny sticker probably says "If you can read this you are damn too close to my car".
4 - Shanon measured the rear window speed, of course.
5 - I love that shift knob, I had it in a 77 E24, I wish I could get one today.
6 - The car was not delivered in Germany, probably Italy
How do I know all this?
1- The clock shows a time that is past 6, the Museum is not open at that time, ergo the clock does not work.
2 - The car has radio and antenna, which are dealer installed.
6 - Seat belts were mandatory in Germany since 1970, and the car is a 71 and has no seat belts. It is a Euro and has cloth so it could be Italy where seat belts were not yet mandatory.
Curious whether BMW even bothers leaving batteries in these display cars, let alone any maintenance aside from dusting.
While on the subject of this specific car, is there any publicly available history on it? Has anyone ever posted its VIN and mileage?
The car looks all-original, but is it?
LOok Ma, no front power windows! Is that radio mono? Nice thin leather wrapped wheel. Not so sure about that shift knob. Bet it's a replacement. Notice the chrome bar above the brake handle, are there seatbelts to go with it?
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you know, if i was painting a car at this time ... ceylon or turkis would be leading contenders. thinking turkis has moved to the top of the list
I was acquainted with someone who imported an almost identically appointed car to the US. That car had the option of rust without the protection. I believe even the glass had corrosion, or some of the body panels were see-through. Using my best recollection, that car was a late '72 build, Deutsche delivery.
Is the museum car's license plate legitimate? Does it offer any clues to registration or location? (In light of recent postings, I only pay attention to yellow on a black field)
No one said winning the biscotti would be easy. The solid amber turn signal lens makes the Italian delivery hypothesis slightly al dente. I liked the Vegas theory better. That gear shift has the uncanny resemblance to a one armed bandit with a clutch pedal. The dash clock is only a confusing reminder to visit the buffet and tank up often or at least twice a day.
The chrome appurtenance protruding from between the two front seats would seem to be from an early build, but maybe against type, the dealer later sold these as odd shaped cup holders - for those customers with correctly shaped cups. Although it seems almost purpose built for holding large pretzels, the same cup holder could also function nicely as a hitching post for the family pet and, if the hand brake mechanism were to slip, it could always be tethered to the same cup holder. If I had wool socks, let alone wool socks that were wet, that's where I would dry mine. Would keep the cabin like a humidor perfect for storing Cohibas. The steering wheel is for spin drying really wet socks.
Regarding seat belts, it is likely they are tucked neatly out of view (along with the optional imaginary air bags/flotation vests). Or, after viewing Vanishing Point, the first owner removed them as a show of political solidarity with antihero Kowalski. Freedom.
If you really like the shift knob, why not book a flight to Munchen. They probably carry those in the museum gift shop. Don't let on about the wiper arm "confusion" unless you are offered a serious discount on the shift knob.
Beauty is only skin deep. Or is it? (Rare: Bias belted spare and 3 cm diameter drive shaft?)
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pmansson
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Turkis
I have one. Sold new in Italy. It is spectacular in all forms of lighting, or dark at night.
I have one. Sold new in Italy. It is spectacular in all forms of lighting, or dark at night.
johanaxelson
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One way to clear the museum car mystery is to hire Ben Affleck to do the Argo 2 movie about the Baader Meinhof band in Munich. The middle age Californian crew grow sideburns and wear period correct toupees. The set at the BMW museum gives them unrestricted access to the Turkis car they want to smuggle out to Pmansson in neutral Switzerland. In spite of the urgency Don Lawrence insists in doing a 5-speed conversion with parts he removes from other display cars. He adds another 120 horses with some engine bits he finds around, after all everything is Euro in the museum. The horses come handy when being chased by the German police over the Alps. The plot thickens when it is time to cross the borders in an already hypersensitive Europe. Ben Affleck saves the day with a few subtle tricks: the car papers are adulterated from "Turkis" to "Turkish" and the passengers are disguised as refugees. After the climatic border crossing when one thinks they are safe the swiss police cites them for driving on expired tires. They throw the book at them and have to serve the same sentence as the age of the tires. Fortunately they have plenty of kababs in the trunk they used for the Turkish disguise and are able to bribe the swiss police that is really fed up of a cheese diet. Arde however is caught with a stolen shifter knob and is still serving time. The car rots outdoors in the swiss police impound lot and after two years the only surviving part is the rear windshield with a sticker that reads "Rust Proofed".
pretty sad car
it is indeed sad that bmw is unable to change that car from the museum display, i guess i was there back in 2010 or earlier, and it was that same car in display, my favourite colour BTW
they have several e9s, in the other building i remember at least half a dozen, come on, change a bit, show other versions, colours,...
they have a nice 2800 automatic verona, 3.0cs silver, alpina bi colour black and inka,...
it is indeed sad that bmw is unable to change that car from the museum display, i guess i was there back in 2010 or earlier, and it was that same car in display, my favourite colour BTW
they have several e9s, in the other building i remember at least half a dozen, come on, change a bit, show other versions, colours,...
they have a nice 2800 automatic verona, 3.0cs silver, alpina bi colour black and inka,...
I spit out my beer laughing!! :grin:
The large photos on these posts shrinks everything to nano size both on my laptop and iPad, causing me to resize as I read down through the posts. Can you upload a bit smaller size?
When do we start and do we call it the Munich Job?
Dry-run at SFMOMA this Sunday.
Thick unibrows for us perps. Russell Crowe is in with fifty unibrow extras playing the role of Frida Kahlo fans during the escape.